MLL Week 4 - The King is Dead, Long Live the King

[Paxosmotic]

Who the hell is Aargh57, and why can't he be stopped?

Want to sign up for the MLL? Just contact anyone in the roster about playing a game, post the results, and you're in. So so simple. Post here with any questions you might have.

The Micro Limits League is a heads-up league in the style of college football. All players are free schedule their own games and determine their own path through the league. Your results are based on two things and two things only : how well you played and how tough your opponents were. There's no handicapping by ending up with a tough path through the bracket, and you'll never have to be concerned with getting your results in by a specified time. This is your league.

How it works - Visit the MLL thread for a given week, where you will find a list of all MLL members. If you'd like to challenge someone, the recommended way to set it up is to send them a PM on the subject and leave them plenty of ways to contact you. Or you can hammer it out through the PM. The time of the game is entirely up to you, the only thing required for the league is that you play a 25BB .02/.04 freezeout. That way no one's losing more than $1 at a time. At the completion of the game, it's customary for the loser to post in that week's thread saying who they lost to. If the loser forgets to post it within a few hours, the winner can post it. At that time, I'll plug your game into my incredibly complicated matrix, run it through many filters, translate it to French, and include it in the next week's wrap up.

MLL Week 3 slowed down a bit farther. I've decided to set the bar at 3 games played to get some more people in the rankings and encourage some activity.

The MLL Top 25

1. Aargh57 (6-0)
2. irishpint (8-2)
3. Fantam (3-1)
4. SavageMiser (2-1)
5. Jaxup (13-6)
6. monix (2-1)
7. lautzutao (8-4)
8. nomadtla (7-4)
9. SL__72 (4-2)
10. CourtJester (2-1)
11. steelcmg (3-2)
12. CaseClosed326 (2-1)
13. tiltaholic (3-2)
14. Nfinity (3-2)
15. ChickenFud (2-1)
16. Slamhound (7-7)
17. 2+2 wannabe (6-5)
18. benkath1 (3-4)
19. Russ McGinley (2-2)
20. trainslayer (4-5)
21. gharp (4-5)
22. Aaron W. (5-6)
23. Guruman (3-3)
24. Paxosmotic (3-5)
25. bottomset (2-3)

The MLL Roster - Send updates to PygmyHero
@bsolute_luck
2+2 Junkie
2+2 wannabe: twoptwowannabe
A_K
aargh57: Aargh57
Aaron W.: airwong4980
aces_dad: a29dad
adsman
Alexxxxxxx
BatsShadow
benkath1: nikeozz
bottomset: bottomset222
branden: STFUdotEDU
car ramrod: des24999
CaseClosed326: CaseClosed326
CheeseBurger
chiachu: kickasskorean
ChickenFud: ConradBrean
CIncyHR: CincyHR
CourtJester: DuhJester666
Davey: Boobz7
David04: betterdayz616
DavidC
deception5
deepsquat
detruncate: debellation
dietlime: dietlime1
Disconnected: Disconn33
djames: dlraben
ECWGuy420: ECWGuy4201982
Eeegah
El Tigre: OUSooners617
Fantam
gharp: gharp43
Guruman
huenix: huenixisunix
rishpint: espezial
jack21221
jaxUp: jaxup brad
Jefzter
JKetzer
jmn32
Jnana: Jnana943
JunkHead
K-mac: kmclaughlin80
kapw7: Arhs99
Kevinho: khuigens1
lautzutao: Lautzutao
macdaddy991: macdaddy991
Matt Jenko
monix: DukeGilmore1
moose47: moose74744747
MrWookie47: MrWookie47
Mvcode3: Mvcode3
Nilbud
Nfinity: Nfinity1414
nomadtla: Nomadtla1
Obliky: Obliky
Paxosmotic: Paxosmotic
PygmyHero
Rev. Good Will: superelasticman
Rogue5: jfj83
Russ McGinley
SavageMiser: MACortinas
SL__72: SLAR72
slamhound: dietgodzilla
SocalHoldEem: itsstockofficer
steelcmg
Sting99: Sting1599
Stonewalled
TheHammer24
thesharpie: puresharpie
theweatherman
tiltaholic: tubby9000
tor
trainslayer: Brushhawg
TredWel
USDaniels: usdaniels71
Vote4Pedro: ratmkurt
Walker
wdeadwyler
Weatherhead03
wpzone: jwpzone103
zuluking

Next week we will begin the MLL Challenge Series tournament, as well as all gather together to cower as Paxosmotic returns to active status in the MLL roster. I plan to dominate the rest of the season kiddies, so look out.

[CourtJester]

im up for a game right now, and on 2 tables on stars, so just im me DuhJester666

[MrWookie47]

My opponent didn't bold his text properly, but his post was in the correct general format. From the previous thread:

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Winner: MrWookie47
Loser: Sting99
Comments: Total Domination. Over in 48 hands.

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I should be at 3-5.

[Paxosmotic]

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My opponent didn't bold his text properly, but his post was in the correct general format. From the previous thread:

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Winner: MrWookie47
Loser: Sting99
Comments: Total Domination. Over in 48 hands.

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I should be at 3-5.

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You are 3-5. You're also not ranked or listed in the first post.

[MrWookie47]

Ah, ok. I guess I need to review just how this ranking thing is handled. I thought that win percentage was the #1 factor, and then strength of schedule second, meaning all people at 3-5 would be grouped together. I saw you at 3-5 with bottomset below you, and not me, so I was confused.

[Paxosmotic]

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Ah, ok. I guess I need to review just how this ranking thing is handled. I thought that win percentage was the #1 factor, and then strength of schedule second, meaning all people at 3-5 would be grouped together. I saw you at 3-5 with bottomset below you, and not me, so I was confused.

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Paxosmotic : 37.5 win percentage, 54.7 strength of schedule, 41.59 opponents strength of schedule = 43.0 rating

Bottomset : 40 win percentage, 40.38 strength of schedule, 56.45 opponents strength of schedule = 42.46 rating

MrWookie47 : 37.5 win percentage, 44.64 strength of schedule, 49.90 opponents strength of schedule = 41.31 rating

Beat tougher opponents. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Win % is the number one factor, but strength of schedule affects rankings too and moves people up down and around. Win % accounts for 57.14% of your rating.

[PygmyHero]

Pax - I'm glad you made this post because it reminded me of something I was curious about. I was hoping you'd share the forumla you're using with us.

Since you give that win % counts as 57.14% of your rating and gave a few examples, I calculated that SOS counts for between 28.54 - 28.59% of your rating, and that opponents SOS therefore must count for 14.27 - 14.32% of your rating (assuming those are the only three variables you're using). I can't pin it down more accurately with only 3 examples due to rounding.

Of course, I don't know how you're calculating SOS. Anyway, I'm just curious. Maybe I'm the only one?

[Paxosmotic]

Win % is 4/7ths, opponent's win % is 2/7ths, and opponent's opponents is 1/7ths. I'll elaborate more later.

[Guruman]

i'm up for a match. pm me. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Guruman]

sigh.

guruman loses to ChickenFud

damn river luckbox. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Aaron W.]

Pwn Aaron. Limited time offer.

Aim: airwong4980

[Paxosmotic]

Bump. Hey, remember the MLL?

[nomadtla]

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Bump. Hey, remember the MLL?

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yeah those were good times

[Paxosmotic]

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Bump. Hey, remember the MLL?

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yeah those were good times

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They sure were.

I promise everyone on this forum that I have a lot more patience than everyone here. I will bump MLL threads 3 times a day, every day, until December 31st. I have absolutely no problem with talking to myself clear til then. So if you want to shut me up, you play poker.

[PygmyHero]

Save the MLL!

Someone play me NOW. The MLL is important and I am going to make some time for a match. Besides I have a new mod for the Stars table and cards I want to see. PM me or post. I may get on AIM in a minute too.

SN is PygmyHero everywhere - Stars, here, AIM, etc.

[PygmyHero]

Bump. Come on - I need an opponent. I am going to start AIM-ing and PM-ing everyone and their mother if no one responds in the next few minutes.

Now is a good time too - the Stars lobby shows short / non-existent waiting lists on the $0.02-$0.04 HU tables. I can also get to Prima if someone is more inclined to do that.

[Weatherhead03]

Ill play you.

[PygmyHero]

Winner: MrWookie47
Loser: PygmyHero
Comments: 101 hands. The tone was pretty much set right away as I had the good fortune to be dealt AA twice in the first 13 hands, only to lose big pots both times. Wook took away half my stack a few times and I came back, but it was not meant to be. I fought off 2-3 all-ins, but it was to no avail.

But the MLL is saved.

[lautzutao]

Who wants some?

[trainslayer]

Ya wanna jump? Do ya really wanna?

aim: brushhawg

[aargh57]

and the right to beat me and tell everybody how over-rated I am is just an IM away.

IM=aargh57

(I'll be able to play as long as we start by about 3PM CST)

[Pyromaniac]

Okay, noob questions:

This is all at Pokerstars?

I don't play at Pokerstars...but from what I gather, setting up an account is no big deal there because they don't have any particular signup bonuses, or rakeback, or anything to really consider beforehand...?

P

[MrWookie47]

Pyro, that's correct. Some games have also taken place at the Prima play money tables, but most are at Stars.

[Paxosmotic]

Guys, I love ya, but the entire reason PygmyHero puts together the MLL roster along with SNs is so that you can contact people to play games. Everyone is just posting in threads saying "I'm available, IM me", which means you're waiting for someone else to do the leg work. Why not be proactive? Come to the thread, pick 5 screennames from the list, and send IMs basically amounting to "Stars .02/.04 in 5 minutes, bitch." Get your games going that way. It's a lot more likely to get a response since you're coming right to their IM. I've never had a problem getting a game when I've wanted one. Yet we have people posting here that their post in the thread didn't get a reply. So what? Seek people out, that's why we have the list.

Oh, and play more matches.

[aargh57]

That's what I did. When I got 3 no reply's and 2 no's I posted.

[irishpint]

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That's what I did. When I got 3 no reply's and 2 no's I posted.

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if i wasn't in the school library i'd play you to the death for first place. it's BS that I'm not the best at everything. game later today? im free after 3, pacific time.

[kapw7]

I am at Stars.
AIM: Arhs99

[aargh57]

maybe,

I might be busy by then (that's 5PM CST I think) but I'll IM you if I'm not. I shouldn't have written that retort to PAX. He's right, we should schedule our our own matches more and not post the IM me posts here as much. Sorry.

[MrWookie47]

Taking the initiative is great and all, but consider this, Pax: by posting IM me requests in this thread, we at least bump it to get people thinking about the MLL again. Surely these posts are more productive than just having you bump this thing three times a day.

[irishpint]

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Guys, I love ya, but the entire reason PygmyHero puts together the MLL roster along with SNs is so that you can contact people to play games. Everyone is just posting in threads saying "I'm available, IM me", which means you're waiting for someone else to do the leg work. Why not be proactive? Come to the thread, pick 5 screennames from the list, and send IMs basically amounting to "Stars .02/.04 in 5 minutes, bitch." Get your games going that way. It's a lot more likely to get a response since you're coming right to their IM. I've never had a problem getting a game when I've wanted one. Yet we have people posting here that their post in the thread didn't get a reply. So what? Seek people out, that's why we have the list.

Oh, and play more matches.

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I think its fine to post here, because like the wook said, it bumps this thread. I see no reason why it should ever leave the first page and if it ever does I'll bump it back there the instant it happens. Also, PMs/AOL are easier to set up matches with. And Aargh57, lose more matches pleeeease.

[Paxosmotic]

I love that people are posting and bumping the thread, and think they should continue doing that, but I think people should be actively seeking matches. Maybe post in the thread and start IMing people, that kind of thing.

[aargh57]

Winner: Jaxup
Loser: Aargh57
Comments: Undefeated no more. Jaxup picks up a well deserved win.

[steelcmg]

Game anyone?

[irishpint]

i can play now, espezial. i IMed some, i cant IM them all.

[Reqtech]

Ok, I can't resist any more...I'm throwing my hat into the ring. Trying to find people on AIM now, if anyone is up my AIM is rapptackular. Giddy up!

I will be on the next roster.

AIM: copremesa

[SL__72]

Winner: Reqtech
Loser: SL__72
Comments: None. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Sitting at a table on Stars, dietgodzilla.

Im up for some games now. pm me!

[PygmyHero]

Pax - you can consider me properly chastened for my use of the thread to contact people.

However, I must respecfully disagree with you for three reasons.

As Wook points out, it is good to keep re-bumping the thread.

In the pre season thread, I anticipated this problem and suggested we have a thread with the sole purpose of people posting open challenges at any time. Wook pointed out that this would take up two spots on the front page, which is a fair point. The use of the weekly thread for posting an open challenge was part of the trade off.

I am very rarely on AIM, but I religiously check my email every 5 minutes. So the best way to get ahold of me is actually just to post in this thread. I see challenges pretty quickly - just haven't had the time to take them. I know that's a weak point since I may very well be alone on that one though.

Anyway, regardless, everyone's goal is just to see everyone playing more matches. I think Wook felt it his duty as a mod to play me, which I appreciated. It was difficult for me to make time also, but the MLL is important damnit!

[Paxosmotic]

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Pax - you can consider me properly chastened for my use of the thread to contact people.

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I'm not chastening you or anything, absolutely not, I simply think it's more effective to get matches to actively IM people. You guys do what you do, it's all good.

[Reqtech]

Giving this a healthy bump and I'm looking for an opponent for tonight. AIM me @ rapptackular

[Reqtech]

Loser: Reqtech
Winner: Dietlime
Comments: Closers get coffee. Reqtech gets no coffee.

[irishpint]

im looking to play meow. ive IMed some w/ no luck.

[Guruman]

Reqtech repairs his luckbox on the river and runs over me with repeated suckouts. (If only the little lady could suckout as well as Req...)

Guruman loses to Requtech

[irishpint]

guruman rocks me. i would, however, enjoy a rematch @ some time when my girlfriend is not complaining to me on the phone. regardless it was a dirty slaughter- the way i'd prefer to go down.

[trainslayer]

as info

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Winner : Windows
Loser : Linux
Comments : Anything interesting goes here.

If results aren't posted like this or at least easily discernable as a match, they'll be ignored starting this week. That means if you post saying

"i cant believe how lucky i just got against wook!"

Then you're going to be sorely disappointed when you don't get credit for the win. I'm not going to psychoanalyze every post in this thread trying to decide if you're talking about a new match, an old one, or what. Post your results clearly.


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guruman rocks me

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[Guruman]

yeah, I'll put it in bold so that I can get credit for it.

guruman beats Irishpint

[and irishpint owes me a dollar /images/graemlins/smile.gif]

[Paxosmotic]

When I get home from work in about 5 1/2 hours, I am going to absolutely kick the hell out of one or two people in a HU match. Who is it going to be?

Kick my ass. (anyone else, too) AIM copremesa

Winner: gharp
Loser:buzz-cp
Comments: stars is rigged

[trainslayer]

I'll be getting home about 0700 (central) and lookin for a game.

aim: brushhawg
stars: geauxcat

[aargh57]

Winner: trainslayer
Loser: aargh57
Comments: 183 hand match. Key point was aargh's 2nd nut flush getting beat by trainslayer's full house late in the match. 2 losses in a row can't be good for aargh's #1 ranking.

[trainslayer]

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Winner: trainslayer
Loser: aargh57
Comments: 183 hand match. Key point was aargh's 2nd nut flush getting beat by trainslayer's full house late in the match. 2 losses in a row can't be good for aargh's #1 ranking.

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it was an intense, well played game. a well deserved ranking

[trainslayer]

macdaddy was having connection problems yesterday, so i'll post our results.

1st game

winner : trainslayer
loser : macdaddy991

2nd game

winner trainslayer
loser macdaddy991


i hit one mean streak of cards for two str8 games

[Paxosmotic]

Winner: Dietlime
Loser: Paxosmotic

I'll post the week 4 thread either tonight or tomorrow. I need to hammer out the groupings for the round robins.

[benkath1]

Is this thing dead?

If not I'm looking for a game.

AIM nikeozz