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housenuts
10-21-2005, 07:12 PM
$27 turbo @ stars

should i fold and wait or go for the gusto?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t6020)
Hero (t1785)
SB (t2250)
BB (t3445)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?

psyduck
10-21-2005, 07:14 PM
fold

if SB and BB's stacks were switched, I'd like it more though

Nick M
10-21-2005, 07:19 PM
without any reads i don't think it's bad because of who is in the BB. He wants to make the money. He has chips. I think he SHOULD fold a lot of good hands.

There are some arguements for waiting though. You will certainly pick up a better hand to push on the next deal UTG. The only prob with that is the big stack will be in the BB.

also some points to think about is the fact that if you are successful in pushing here, SB becomes the short stack. Which I believe to be important. Being the short one on the bubble is horrible. When you have someone less than you, you can always overcall an all in for 3rd place protection.

bigt439
10-21-2005, 07:35 PM
This is a push. And it's not even close.

Edit: I'm not going to edit that out, because I'll look like a bitch, but it actually is pretty close. Glad I ran this through SNGPT. If even one of them is on maniac, it's almost certainly a bad push. And that's really not a ridiculous range for either of them, especially the BB. Wow, I'm very surprised here. I guess it has to do with the high blinds really opening up calling ranges, and stack parity on the bubble making busting especially bad.

TheTROLL
10-21-2005, 07:50 PM
Just been doing the same, as I thought it was closer than you initially said. On balance I think I'd go with your original reply, since the blinds probably aren't calling maniac ranges on the bubble. Loose for BB's bigger stack and average for the SB's middling stack gives +1.7% for the push.

valenzuela
10-21-2005, 08:56 PM
I push here, I need chips and fast, 600 chips cant hurt your stack can they?

10-21-2005, 09:25 PM
Stars spite call far more often than Party. I'm expecting any ace or king to call me from the BB, SB certainly calls here with an ace.

I'm folding this, probably pushing top 30% of hands here. 94o is pretty piss weak when the blinds calling ranges start to open up.

10-21-2005, 10:01 PM
With a 4BB stack left, this is definately a push in my opinion. Your fold equity is fading fast. Use it or lose it.

Hendricks433
10-22-2005, 02:50 AM
Yeah I get spite called far more often on Stars than I did on Party.

kyro
10-22-2005, 03:22 AM
Depends on opponents I think...but I guess I could check the calculator.