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SmileyEH
10-21-2005, 11:42 AM
Villian is a decent tag. I check the turn here because the only hand I'm getting value from is KQ and I'm getting checkraised by KJ and AQ. River pairs counterfitting KJ. Any fold to a 3bet if it's forthcoming?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.70 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

-SmileyEH
TheHammer24
10-21-2005, 11:48 AM
It's ok, I kind of just want to call, but as long as you fold to the three bet I think it is ok.
jba
10-21-2005, 11:48 AM
I don't know man, QJ/AJ/AT, I think I am betting this turn.
krimson
10-21-2005, 11:53 AM
I think you need to call a 3-bet as KJ may think he has you beat. Personally I think we should just bet/call the turn.
10-21-2005, 11:56 AM
I bet the turn also and call the river if check raised.

Villain may check raise this turn with KQ, QJ, QT.
SmileyEH
10-21-2005, 12:00 PM
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Villain may check raise this turn with KQ, QJ, QT.

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Are you serious? I either have the nuts, a draw to the nuts, an overpair, TPTK, or a set. There is noway a semi bluff ever ever ever ever works here.

-SmileyEH
Chris Daddy Cool
10-21-2005, 12:02 PM
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Villain may check raise this turn with KQ, QJ, QT.

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Are you serious? I either have the nuts, a draw to the nuts, an overpair, TPTK, or a set. There is noway a semi bluff ever ever ever ever works here.

-SmileyEH

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i've definitely been checkraised by these hands before by so called decent tags.

esp. AK, KQ as those aren't semibluffs, but value raises (in their eyes)
Chris Daddy Cool
10-21-2005, 12:03 PM
bet the turn.
SmileyEH
10-21-2005, 12:05 PM
Maybe I'm giving my opp. too much credit. FWIW I'm pretty sure AK caps preflop here. In any case you are advocating betting the turn? I was pretty sure a check was right, but I suck so you're probably right.

-SmileyEH
AaronS
10-21-2005, 12:31 PM
I'm definately betting this turn. I think he will call with hands that you are ahead of... AK, any Q, 2 spades maybe even AJ. If he has either a straight or flush draw, you have a nice edge and definately want to bet. If I get checked raised, I would just call the river.
Evan
10-21-2005, 12:40 PM
I agree with Chris Daddy's posts in this thread. Way more hands raise or call the turn than you think.
SmileyEH
10-21-2005, 04:17 PM
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I agree with Chris Daddy's posts in this thread. Way more hands raise or call the turn than you think.

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Bleh, I raise he 3bets, I call because I suck at poker and he shows AQ.

-SmileyEH
callmedonnie
10-21-2005, 04:22 PM
I would bet the turn. I see no reason not to.