I have no idea how to play.

[SlyGuy]

I forgot how to play. Is this smart? I honestly have no idea what I am doing anymore.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

[deepsquat]

Id would c/r the flop and call down if 3bet.

[IGMorton]

my oppionion may be controversial here...

in general, i found that the players at 1/2 and 2/4 were so ridiculous... that most of your educated thought processes about putting guys on hands, etc... are close to useless. save yourself some grief.

in short, untill you reach 5/10, toss your copy of HEPAP out the window. play tight, wait till you have a bigass hand, and make your money off those cold-callers and maniacs when you have them crushed.

this may not make you as much as you could if you could truly read all those guys... but why waste the time trying? save a few bucks and step up to 5/10 asap, where your attempts to read reasonable players aren't completely futile.

[SlyGuy]

don't have the roll for 5/10. Thats sounds like bad advice. I have the roll for 3/6 for sure, about $4.2k

[IGMorton]

i didn't say to step up levels. i just recommended playing tight against all those cold callers and maniacs. i know i made more money at that level playing tight and waiting for a hand than trying fancy plays vs. fools who don't have a fold button.

[TTChamp]

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Id would c/r the flop and call down if 3bet.



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What do you do if you check flop, button bets, and BB raises?

I would 3-bet the flop, lead the turn and check/fold the river.

By 3-betting the flop you'll get a real good idea on what he has. If he raises the turn, he either has you dominated or hit the flush. If he sticks around to the river with your aggression that usually means your beat. Although at 2/4 and 3/6 players have a very hard time folding PP's no matter what the board shows, so a read on them would be helpful.

Long time lurker, first time poster so take what you want from this.

[SlyGuy]

I think you are onto something. I think i may take a few weeks off and think about poker a bunch.

[Jerkass333]

$4.2k is a roll for 5-10. It really is. At the very least to take a shot. If you really want a comfortable br then you can still get up to 3-6. Party games are awesome.

[SlyGuy]

I had been playing 3/6 for a measly .43bb/100 over 13k hands. SO i went to stars to play the 2/4 for the bonus and am getting kicked in the face. So i figure if i can't beat 2/4 i shouldn't play 3/6.

[beachbum]

I play it almost the same way. Sometimes I donk the turn so he doesn't check behind and take a free card for a flush draw. More often than not though I donk the river because I don't want hands like KK and JJ to see a free showdown. It's almost like a WA/WB situation except for the fact that he probably won't raise your river donk even if he's got you beaten (unless he has you crushed with AA, QQ, or a flush). However I think you make more in the long run with these river donks vs. the number of times you donk-call his river raise.

Also, a read on the villian is pretty important here.

[college_boy]

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I had been playing 3/6 for a measly .43bb/100 over 13k hands. SO i went to stars to play the 2/4 for the bonus and am getting kicked in the face. So i figure if i can't beat 2/4 i shouldn't play 3/6.

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You don't really know anything after 13k hands.

[dealer_toe]

yeah, 13k is nothing. I was break even in my first 8k of 3/6 and ended up +2bb after about 30k hands.

[Cernunnos]

Poker is not played in a vacumn, so you need some sort of a read here, to enable people to give you more than a general opinion. The way you played it passively is ok against a complete unknown,
But I would prefer to play it more aggressively on the flop, either to mix it up or against a player you have a read on as more aggressive, 3 bet the flop. This will a least rule out hands like KK JJ QQ that sometimes 2 bet the flop either in fustration or to check through the turn after the 2 bet.

[Monty Cantsin]

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my oppionion may be controversial here...

in general, i found that the players at 1/2 and 2/4 were so ridiculous... that most of your educated thought processes about putting guys on hands, etc... are close to useless. save yourself some grief.

in short, untill you reach 5/10, toss your copy of HEPAP out the window. play tight, wait till you have a bigass hand, and make your money off those cold-callers and maniacs when you have them crushed.

this may not make you as much as you could if you could truly read all those guys... but why waste the time trying? save a few bucks and step up to 5/10 asap, where your attempts to read reasonable players aren't completely futile.

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Ok, I'll bite. This advice is awful.

/mc

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toss your copy of HEPAP out the window.


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LMAO. So true. So very true at the lower limits.

[EvanJC]

your avatar is absolutely terrifying.

to the OP, i'm torn between playing it exactly how you played it and trying to get another bet in there somewhere. im not sure what's best, but i think they way you played it is fine. i just got done screwing with the PS 2/4 for a bit and it seems really passive. actually, if you wanted to pm me your screen name i'd be interested, i probably have some hands with you.