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thesharpie
10-20-2005, 09:39 PM
Villain seemed agressive. 44/17 33% wenttosd

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Another one, no read at the time.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>
SlantNGo
10-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Hand 1: Good. Ace high is calling you here.

Hand 2: Meh... I think you're getting called down by a PP personally.
milesdyson
10-20-2005, 10:57 PM
first one looks good.

second one i don't think you're ahead often enough when called. if that T were a 4 then it's closer. i value bet AK the other day, but the board was like 33428 - and it was against a real donk.
Brain
10-20-2005, 11:10 PM
That 4 is a 4?

I agree with you though.

And the first one looks good. Pounding on opponents in hand 2 worked about 6 months ago, but not lately so I've stopped doing it.
milesdyson
10-20-2005, 11:17 PM
yeah i misread the hand. mixed em up.
Brain
10-20-2005, 11:35 PM
phew, thought i was too drunk to be constructive. glad to see that's not the case. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
thesharpie
10-20-2005, 11:49 PM
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yeah i misread the hand. mixed em up.

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If that's the case isn't 54492 (the board you might bet on) similar to 42296. And are you saying the reason you bet on the 54492 board is because they're more likely to call you down with ace high when the flop is paired and ragged?
Redd
10-21-2005, 12:44 AM
I like hand 1 but not hand 2. I'd actually like hand 2 better if you somehow had KQ in that situation.
milesdyson
10-21-2005, 01:46 AM
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yeah i misread the hand. mixed em up.

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If that's the case isn't 54492 (the board you might bet on) similar to 42296. And are you saying the reason you bet on the 54492 board is because they're more likely to call you down with ace high when the flop is paired and ragged?

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well i think you also need a read to bet here. i said (mistakenly) if the T were a 4 it would be closer, but against an unknown i think it's not a profitable bet. if you'd ever seen him call a river bet with A/K high, then yeah, that board is definitely ragged enough to bet your nut high card.