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kongo_totte
10-20-2005, 06:47 PM
Villian is 55/20/4, i.e. very aggressive. His standard raise PF is $15-$25.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($256.20)
Hero ($230.45)
SB ($196.70)
BB ($77.65)
UTG ($122.11)
MP ($396.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $25.

Flop: ($83) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>

Thoughts?
10-20-2005, 07:02 PM
hmmm, if your gonna raise I like a bet more like $80 total

Does he bluff a lot on the turn and river? Calling flop and turn and evaluting river might be an option
Riposte
10-20-2005, 07:20 PM
No draws are out really, except some bizarre straight draw. Why not call and let him keep firing at you?
xorbie
10-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Just calling PF is also an option. Again, JJ vs the tricky ones is not so great.
kongo_totte
10-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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No draws are out really, except some bizarre straight draw. Why not call and let him keep firing at you?

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It's one line, but is very expensive the times he has an A or KK/QQ.
Riposte
10-20-2005, 07:30 PM
So you fold to a reraise then you mean? What if he calls your raise? I am just thinking a big pot here is bad.

Maybe you could call the flop, fold to a big turn bet?
kongo_totte
10-20-2005, 07:34 PM
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So you fold to a reraise then you mean? What if he calls your raise? I am just thinking a big pot here is bad.

Maybe you could call the flop, fold to a big turn bet?

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Yes, the raise is to find out where I stand, with the extra bonus that it will probably fold out some hands that beat me KK/QQ. I am afraid he will start firing big with any 2 if I show weakness. I don't know this though.
elus2
10-20-2005, 07:38 PM
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Villian is 55/20/4, i.e. very aggressive. His standard raise PF is $15-$25.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($256.20)
Hero ($230.45)
SB ($196.70)
BB ($77.65)
UTG ($122.11)
MP ($396.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $25.

Flop: ($83) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>

Thoughts?

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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?
kongo_totte
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?

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Not large.
elus2
10-20-2005, 08:06 PM
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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?

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Not large.

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i'm not fond of a flop raise versus LAGs as many will make the decision harder for me on later streets. i prefer to flat call the flop and then raise if he bets smallish again on the turn and then try to take a free showdown. if he leads the river i will fold maybe 8 times in 10 unless offered very generous odds. if i had a better read on his tendencies at the river against passive opponents then i may decide to call a relatively larger turn bet.
Malachii
10-20-2005, 09:23 PM
Hmm. Wagering $65 to win $103. Not so bad.
FreakDaddy
10-20-2005, 10:31 PM
If he had an ace where he's no vunerbae to overcards this would be the ideal play, but not here.

Hero needs to raise to near pot size but anything 85 or over is good.
kongo_totte
10-20-2005, 11:23 PM
He folded.
10-21-2005, 12:12 AM
No surprise. If you have a read on him... which often isn't so amazingly hard... it makes your decisions on the river/facing a reraise pretty easy.

Though in all fairness, even with a read... a really aggressive river bet/reraise = a very hard call to make with confidence.