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Scuba Chuck
10-20-2005, 04:02 PM
UTG 965
UTG+1 1555
MP1 910
MP2 940
MP3 855
CO 1355
Button 1590
SB 845
BB (hero) 985

Preflop: hero dealt A/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t110) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t20 (minimum), MP1 calls, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>

Turn: (t170) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets t80, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>, UTG+1 fold

River: (t330) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero checks, MP1 bets t230, <font color="red"> Hero's pissed that he got himself in this spot... </font>

I'm behind a full house, flush, and a straight. All I can beat is A weaker kicker. Looking back, I think the turn bet is the fold.

zambonidrivr
10-20-2005, 04:06 PM
villians river bet is confusing. i say weaker ace. it's early which makes this an easy fold. i hate limped pots

10-20-2005, 04:14 PM
River bet looks like he made his boat. I'd guess A9, no spades.

zambonidrivr
10-20-2005, 04:17 PM
why? i think the river bet looks weak. I make a boat there, I am making sure I bet something he has to call in an effort to extract.

Scuba Chuck
10-20-2005, 05:13 PM
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River bet looks like he made his boat. I'd guess A9, no spades.

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I was thinking a different way. I thought his river bet looked like I was beat. In all seriousness, I thought my best hope was to chop. I don't think there's a hand I beat here with this bet.

pineapple888
10-20-2005, 05:21 PM
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All I can beat is A weaker kicker.

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But not A9, A8, or A7, keep in mind. AT is about your only shot.

PVS pre-flop to take it down, or at least clarify your hand.

pineapple888
10-20-2005, 05:25 PM
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River bet looks like he made his boat. I'd guess A9, no spades.

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I was thinking a different way. I thought his river bet looked like I was beat. In all seriousness, I thought my best hope was to chop. I don't think there's a hand I beat here with this bet.

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How do you chop? Your kicker is in play.

Easy, easy fold on the river. Easy fold on the turn.

Seadood228
10-20-2005, 05:28 PM
I'd have probably let go on the turn. If it got to the river I might go for a block of about half his bet.

I swear playing AT-AJ OOP in limped pots has to be the most frustrating thing.. esp against worse competition.

ZeroPointMachine
10-20-2005, 06:04 PM
You have no way to know if your hand is good at any point. I'm with UTG here. Take a weak shot on the flop(not that weak). If that doesn't work don't put in another dime.

Scuba Chuck
10-20-2005, 06:32 PM
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How do you chop? Your kicker is in play.


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Umm, we both have AJ?

tigerite
10-20-2005, 08:59 PM
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All I can beat is A weaker kicker.

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But not A9, A8, or A7, keep in mind. AT is about your only shot.

PVS pre-flop to take it down, or at least clarify your hand.

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PVS when it's early meaning 10/15 blinds or so and you have 30bb?

Oh, dear.

pineapple888
10-20-2005, 09:04 PM
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All I can beat is A weaker kicker.

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But not A9, A8, or A7, keep in mind. AT is about your only shot.

PVS pre-flop to take it down, or at least clarify your hand.

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PVS when it's early meaning 10/15 blinds or so and you have 30bb?

Oh, dear.

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Is there a problem? If you can punish the limpers with crap, you can do it with AJ.

tigerite
10-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Do you know the meaning of 'risk to reward ratio' at all. Pushing this preflop is crap at such an early level. But if you like to have leaks in your game, sure, keep doing it.

Nick M
10-20-2005, 09:23 PM
agree totally...i gotta bet this flop. Just 1/3 i think.

pineapple888
10-20-2005, 09:36 PM
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Do you know the meaning of 'risk to reward ratio' at all. Pushing this preflop is crap at such an early level. But if you like to have leaks in your game, sure, keep doing it.

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What's gotten into you? And who said anything about pushing?

Let me check... yep, I have a Harvard degree in applied mathematics... yeah, I guess I kinda understand risk-reward.

There's 100 chips in the middle, 10% of my stack, and I'm going to put in a raise to try to go get it.

If you don't like it, Mr. know-it-all, go f yourself. End of discussion.

bjb23
10-20-2005, 09:56 PM
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PVS pre-flop to take it down, or at least clarify your hand.

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apparently you have no idea what a pvs is.