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Ojo_Rojo

10-20-2005, 10:56 AM

I'm currently in a -3.58PTBB/100 (8 buyins) downswing over some 11k hands. /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

My AA's arent holding up, sets are rare and are big losers, I cant hit a draw if it was on my ass, I'm losing most coinflips, and so I think the quality of my play has suffered.

Is this just variance, or am I, after all this time, just crap at poker?

I will start posting more hands from these dire sessions, but first I'll start with my biggest loser.

Villain had just sat down, so I had no reads. I understand the call on the river was v. bad - I could only beat 2-pair after all, but comments on all streets would be welcome. Flame me, I need it.

The game is 200NL, $2 BB.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO ($90.80)
Button ($38)
SB ($225.60)
BB ($207.18)
UTG ($281.13)
Hero ($501.77)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $7, 1 fold.

Flop: ($18) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB raises to $40, Hero calls $25.

Turn: ($98) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $75, Hero calls $75.

River: ($248) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $100, Hero calls $100.

Final Pot: $448

Many thanks,

Ojo_Rojo

Skuzzy

10-20-2005, 11:11 AM

Ugly hand, villain CR'ed the flop led the turn for 3/4 pot then gave you odds of 3.5:1 on the end. I dont play 200's so ignore my thinking as ill-informed but I put villain on either the full house or a king high flush. I think depending on which hand he has his bet is either a small blocking bet or a value bet.

I fold on the end. I may be too weak tight for these games though.

amoeba

10-20-2005, 11:13 AM

I push the flop after the raise.

would have gotten stacked the same but would have also gotten his entire stack had I hit.

the way you played it, you called the turn without odds and I doubt you have implied odds as the guy isn't paying off on the river if 4th club hits unless if he just happens to have K high made flush.

Ghazban

10-20-2005, 11:16 AM

Do you play by the same name on the skins as you have here? If so, I'm pretty sure I've sat with you before. If not, you should go beat that punk up and take your name back.

Ojo_Rojo

10-20-2005, 11:22 AM

/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Ah yes, youre as tight as a nuns muff. I've always made sure we didnt lock horns.

Ojo_Rojo

PinkSteel

10-20-2005, 11:23 AM

After villain checkraises the flop, isn't it push or fold time? Or did you really think your AA was good still, and calling down on blanks would be profitable?

A club on the turn or river could kill your action, and you have no fold equity calling down. Why not push to his flop raise, and leave the hard decision to him?

amoeba

10-20-2005, 11:23 AM

have I sat with you Ojo?

I know I've sat with ghazban before.

Ojo_Rojo

10-20-2005, 11:26 AM

If youre 2+2 name is the same as your Party skin name, then I dont think we've sat together.

I haven't made it on to any buddy lists now have I? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ojo_Rojo

Godfather80

10-20-2005, 11:29 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I push the flop after the raise.

would have gotten stacked the same but would have also gotten his entire stack had I hit.

the way you played it, you called the turn without odds and I doubt you have implied odds as the guy isn't paying off on the river if 4th club hits unless if he just happens to have K high made flush.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is very smart.

10-20-2005, 11:34 AM

I would make a move on the flop. You can't call the turn bet. He could have flopped a flush or a set of 10s. He could have called preflop with QQ, JJ,1010, or mabye KQ suited. He would probably reraise KK.

This is tough if you don't have a read, but if you think youre beat and youre chasing the flush, youre not getting the odds to call. I feel as though he flopped a monster, either flush or set of 10s.

Ojo_Rojo

10-20-2005, 11:36 AM

Thanks for all the comments. Its unaminous (sp?) that a push or fold was in order on the flop - and I can see why.

For what its worth, villain showed TT for top set (err.. full house), and took the pot.

Ojo_Rojo