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10-19-2005, 10:30 PM
Actually, that isn't my question.

How often do you think this play will work against the average $22er. The only hands I've shown down so far are AA(pf), and KK(river). Are they calling with a strong Q? How 'bout a weak K? Will they call with a flush draw?

#Game No : 2902279302
***** Hand History for Game 2902279302 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16720459 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Wednesday, October 19, 21:51:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 67914 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: who_cares193 ( $1200 )
Seat 4: mjenx1 ( $1315 )
Seat 5: castanza_g ( $725 )
Seat 6: capmorg16 ( $715 )
Seat 7: IMAnonymous ( $1220 )
Seat 8: mike_mac ( $2480 )
Seat 9: FU______ ( $173 )
Seat 2: hanylv ( $172 )
Trny:16720459 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to castanza_g [ 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
<font color="red"> capmorg16 calls [100]. </font>
IMAnonymous folds.
mike_mac folds.
FU______ folds.
hanylv folds.
<font color="red"> who_cares193 calls [100]. </font>
mjenx1 folds.
<font color="blue"> castanza_g checks. </font>
** Dealing Flop ** [ Q /images/graemlins/club.gif, 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ] POT=350
<font color="blue"> castanza_g checks. </font>
<font color="red"> capmorg16 checks. </font>
<font color="red"> who_cares193 checks. </font>
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif ] POT=350
<font color="blue"> castanza_g is all-In [625] </font>
<font color="white"> capmorg16 folds.
who_cares193 folds.
castanza_g does not show cards.
castanza_g wins 975 chips
Game #2902284693 starts. </font>

P.S. Who is IMAnonymous? I'm almost positive I've seen that name on these forums.

Pasterbator
10-20-2005, 12:02 AM
i assume you were going for a checkraise all in on the flop, and missed. At the 22s, i think you'll get looked up more often than not by any K and a decent Q. But thats ok, because i'm pushing this too.

flyingmoose
10-20-2005, 12:05 AM
I'd prefer a pot sized bet to a push here. I think you decrease your fold equity by overbetting this pot. 22ers are some PARANOID people.

SippinSoma
10-20-2005, 12:09 AM
I don't know about the average 22er, but it's a fairly obvious desperation bet to me. Someone donkbet me twice the pot on a J high flop and I pushed over with KK. I see flush draws and weak top pairs play like this a lot (or they go in on the flop).

So what I'm saying is, I think you need to be careful who you try this move on. I would like it a lot more if it were HU and you knew enough to confirm the fact that your villains are at BEST "average."

10-20-2005, 12:13 AM
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i assume you were going for a checkraise all in on the flop

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correct

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...a pot sized bet...

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A pot sized bet is over half my stack. /images/graemlins/confused.gif


I JUST realized the turn paired my hand. I was making this push purely on the flush draw, is that still OK?