PP $400nl - Nut Str on turn with possible flush on...

Stacks...
Villian is Loose Aggressive ($436)
Hero ($569)

Preflop: Hero is Mid Pos with A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K /images/graemlins/heart.gif

UTG limps, Hero makes it $16 to go, Cutoff folds, Button (Villain) calls , Blinds and UTG folds...

Flop Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif , T /images/graemlins/heart.gif , 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (pot $42)
I bet $25, Villain Calls

Turn brings J /images/graemlins/spade.gif giving me the nut straight with 3 spades on board...
I bet $50....Villain makes it $175
I don't know what to do here.

[AEKDBet]

Would villain raise that much with flush? If you do decide you hand is good at the moment, you may be faced with all in call on the river.

If the board pairs, or another spade hits you are folding anyway. Probably just let it go.

[phil_ivey_fan]

bet more on flop or don't bet at all. Pricing in draws OOP is not good poker.

[psuasskicker]

Turn brings J giving me the nut straight with 3 spades on board...
I bet $50....Villain makes it $175
I don't know what to do here.

I probably would have tried a cr on the turn, but that's dangerous if he doesn't bet and a spade falls. Then again, I like dangerous plays at times. heh... In all seriousness, with either A/images/graemlins/spade.gif or K/images/graemlins/spade.gif I like a cr on the turn. Without either spade, I think a bet is more in order.

Your flop bet could probably be bigger. Not much chance you chase him off a legit hand with that bet. And your bet on the turn looks equally weak. I play very LAG and those bets look weak enough that I might be able to pick that pot up, especially on a semi-bluff or something like A/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif or something like that.

I think you've gotta call a LAG here. Too much chance he's on QT, QJ, KQ semi-bluff or thinking he's value-betting, TT, 44 maybe... He can have a ton of hands here that you beat.

bet more on flop or don't bet at all. Pricing in draws OOP is not good poker.

You think a flush drawer is incorrect to call $40 on the flop but correct to call $25? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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[arod15]

Bet pot on flop against lags, also bet pot on turn. I call here against a lage. He could be doing this with a wide range of hands. If no spade falls. I check to him fully expecting to call an all in, by calling the turn CR your essentially commited to calling his all in anyway. So if there is no board pairing and no more spades i check and let him push a two pair or missed flush....From a LAG expect the push. I prefer checking here as pushing yourself causes him to fold a weaker hand....

[spoohunter]

With a set I might call, with the straight I fold.

Thanks folks for the input. I re-raised all in ...incorrect play as it happens although he delayed for almost 25 second before calling with 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif,7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif so I was beat. Turn brought a red rag. I think it was the wrong play by me but easy to say now!

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he delayed for almost 25 second before calling with 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif,7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

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As you probably know this is a common technique/ploy to try to get a free card, when someone has a draw.

I think a call on the turn and check/call the river is an OK play. Pushing I think is incorrect unless you think he will pay you off with a set or 2 pair.