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private joker
10-19-2005, 08:05 PM
<font color="purple"> MP1 is 39/10/1. MP3 is 15/7/1. </font>

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB
toss
10-19-2005, 08:07 PM
Nice hand.

Doesn't floating mean folding a better hand or am I crazy?
Chris Daddy Cool
10-19-2005, 08:08 PM
if MP1 bets again are you still going to raise this turn?
Chris Daddy Cool
10-19-2005, 08:08 PM
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Nice hand.

Doesn't floating mean folding a better hand or am I crazy?

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sometimes you actually flop something when you coldcall. doesn't mean its still not floating.
newhizzle
10-19-2005, 08:09 PM
i think bumping the float thread is a better line than starting a new one, but its probly close
toss
10-19-2005, 08:10 PM
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Nice hand.

Doesn't floating mean folding a better hand or am I crazy?

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sometimes you actually flop something when you coldcall. doesn't mean its still not floating.

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Oh so floating means coldcalling PF then stealing on the turn. I thought it meant making a weaker TAG fold better overcards on the turn. /images/graemlins/blush.gif
private joker
10-19-2005, 08:11 PM
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i think bumping the float thread is a better line than starting a new one, but its probly close

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Well, then people wouldn't give serious discussion to this hand, which I think merits it.

CDC brings up a good question -- if MP1 leads, what turn cards are we calling, what turn cards are we raising, and what turn cards are we folding?

I called the flop with the intention of doing something on the turn, depending on the card. It was a great raising card, so I think if MP1 bet and MP3 called, I'd still raise. If MP1 bet and MP3 raised, I'd probably think and cry and fold.
Paxosmotic
10-19-2005, 08:12 PM
I'm still not understanding why a float is so special. Calling JTs in late position after a raise and a couple of limpers is completely standard. What am I missing? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
baronzeus
10-19-2005, 08:12 PM
man i really wanted purple /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Shillx
10-19-2005, 08:13 PM
This isn't a float, but I like the line here. Nice hand.
private joker
10-19-2005, 08:13 PM
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man i really wanted purple /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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I'm deep orchid.
TheHammer24
10-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Seriously examining this hand, what do you put MP3's hand range on to make this play EV+? Do you still raise if MP1 bets again? What if MP1 bets and MP3 folds?
toss
10-19-2005, 08:14 PM
If MP1 bets the turn again it probably means he has AA-JJ since he's betting the flop and turn 5 way in 2nd position. So I don't raising is good. We may have odds to draw though.

Edit: Now Shillx says its not a float and CDC says it is? WHO DO I BELIEVE!
private joker
10-19-2005, 08:16 PM
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Seriously examining this hand, what do you put MP3's hand range on to make this play EV+? Do you still raise if MP1 bets again? What if MP1 bets and MP3 folds?

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Scroll up and you'll see I would raise if MP1 leads again because of this harmless/good turn card.

I think it's +EV to raise the turn for several reasons:

1) Get MP1 to fold AK/AQ which has 6 outs against me.
2) Fold equity on MP3 if he has second pair/a draw.
3) I often have the best hand.
jason_t
10-19-2005, 08:19 PM
This is not a float.
newhizzle
10-19-2005, 08:21 PM
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Well, then people wouldn't give serious discussion to this hand, which I think merits it.

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yeah, i wasnt really paying attention to the hand at first, i dont know what im doing if an overcard falls, i like your line the way it played out because you cant really do much to protect your hand on the flop
GuyOnTilt
10-19-2005, 08:22 PM
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This is not a float.

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shant
10-19-2005, 08:22 PM
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man i really wanted purple /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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I'm deep orchid.

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You MFers I was the OG lavender.
private joker
10-19-2005, 08:24 PM
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This is not a float.

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So what is a float? Do you have to be sure you don't have the best hand?
AllIn3High
10-19-2005, 08:25 PM
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This is not a float.

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So what is a float? Do you have to be sure you don't have the best hand?

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You have to be the first one to call cold i believe.
shant
10-19-2005, 08:26 PM
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This is not a float.

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So what is a float? Do you have to be sure you don't have the best hand?

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I think a float is when you're the first coldcaller, and no matter what cards come you call the flop with the intention to push them off their hand on a later street.
Shillx
10-19-2005, 08:27 PM
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This is not a float.

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So what is a float? Do you have to be sure you don't have the best hand?

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I think a float is when you're the first coldcaller, and no matter what cards come you call the flop with the intention to push them off their hand on a later street.

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This is correct.
10-19-2005, 10:58 PM
nh, way to wait for a safe card on the turn to raise.
sthief09
10-19-2005, 11:00 PM
this is not a float. this is standard limit hold'em poker
10-19-2005, 11:01 PM
your name is purple because you are queer
shant
10-19-2005, 11:08 PM
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your name is purple because you are queer

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10-19-2005, 11:31 PM
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jason_t
10-19-2005, 11:33 PM
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sthief09
10-20-2005, 02:18 AM
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shant
10-20-2005, 02:24 AM
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i need you are peen?

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I couldn't figure out if it was a sexual advance or a diss.
Nick Royale
10-20-2005, 04:58 AM
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i need you are peen?

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I need your epeen (epeen = electronic penis)