Are these players as bad as they seem?

[jj_frap]

Note: BisonBison has been giving me sloppy hand histories and I have no idea why.

PokerStars Game #2840507159: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/10/19 - 10:14:50 (ET)
Table 'Dschubba' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jj_frap ($33.35 in chips)
Seat 2: FLAstyle2 ($35.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Hu Zhen ($25.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Jup Johnson ($19.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Datuk ($16.95 in chips)
Seat 7: mseppala ($22.05 in chips)
Seat 8: WheelOf'C' ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 9: Capoeiraman ($13.30 in chips)
WheelOf'C': posts small blind $0.10
Capoeiraman: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jj_frap [9c Kc Kh Ah]
jj_frap: calls $0.25
Capoeiraman said, "finally a good hand, but noone is in... darn"
FLAstyle2: raises $0.85 to $1.10
Hu Zhen: calls $1.10
Jup Johnson: folds
Datuk: folds
mseppala: calls $1.10
WheelOf'C': calls $1
Capoeiraman: calls $0.85
jj_frap: raises $6.60 to $7.70
FLAstyle2: calls $6.60
Hu Zhen: calls $6.60
mseppala: calls $6.60
WheelOf'C': folds
Capoeiraman: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d Kd Jc]
Jup Johnson said, "dam"
jj_frap: bets $25.65 and is all-in
FLAstyle2: folds
Capoeiraman said, "dam"
Hu Zhen: calls $17.45 and is all-in
mseppala: calls $14.35 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7d Kd Jc] [4h]
Jup Johnson said, "lots of action"
*** RIVER *** [7d Kd Jc 4h] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jj_frap: shows [9c Kc Kh Ah] (three of a kind, Kings)
Hu Zhen: shows [8d 6d Tc Th] (a flush, King high)
Hu Zhen collected $6.20 from side pot
mseppala: shows [Ac Td Qh 4d] (a flush, King high - Ten higher)
mseppala collected $73.05 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $82.25 Main pot $73.05. Side pot $6.20. | Rake $3
Board [7d Kd Jc 4h 5d]
Seat 1: jj_frap showed [9c Kc Kh Ah] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: FLAstyle2 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Hu Zhen showed [8d 6d Tc Th] and won ($6.20) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Jup Johnson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Datuk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mseppala (button) showed [Ac Td Qh 4d] and won ($73.05) with a flush, King high
Seat 8: WheelOf'C' (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Capoeiraman (big blind) folded before Flop

[joewatch]

I don't think you can criticize your opponents in this case.
One had wrap + flush draw, and the 2nd had gutshot + flush draw.

You took a 60/40 beat after the flop. Not that bad at all. You would have been basically even money (to a slight dog) with the eventual winner if the other guy didnt have 4 of his outs.

[jj_frap]

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You took a 60/40 beat after the flop. Not that bad at all. You would have been basically even money (to a slight dog) with the eventual winner if the other guy didnt have 4 of his outs.

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But why the Christ did he call pre-flop? How can you justify paying 30 x the BB to see a flop when you have a hand like AQT4 or TT86?

[joewatch]

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But why the Christ did he call pre-flop? How can you justify paying 30 x the BB to see a flop when you have a hand like AQT4 or TT86?

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Dude, 30bb is only $7.50!

[zephed]

Yes, I am as bad as I seem.