Q8s - Hmm

[POKhER]

Co = 16/7/2 - No showdown info or anything strange.
UTG+1 = 50/9/2.3
UTG = 71/5/.06

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

I think my call is ok?

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Now... To Raise... To Call.... To fold?

[stoli]

Any reads here?

[Nick Royale]

Fold tha flop.

[stoli]

Yeah that too, but since you played it any reads you have would help people respond to your post.

*grunch

I assume it was a pretty loose table to call preflop with Q8s, so...

I think the flop call was good.

Call again on the turn. The pot is/will be too big to fold and with CO just entering the fray I don't think a raise is correct for he must be on something big (set of 9's?) to come in after so much earlier action.

I think the flop call is fine with top pair and a BDFD getting 15.5-2. The turn card is bad for you since now an 8 makes a straight for anyone with a T and your flush possibilities are gone. I think the turn is a raise or fold situation and I lean towards fold since CO is so tight.

[Aaron W.]

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I assume it was a pretty loose table to call preflop with Q8s, so...

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There's no need to assume. Hero is on the button with 6 limpers.

[Aaron W.]

I would fold on the flop. I've got a serious case of reverse implied odds here. The queen is worth only half an out (because of the real chance of being dominated), I've got an iffy 8 out, my other 8s face a flush/gutshot redraw, and I'm getting only about 8:1. The backdoor flush makes it closer, but I still don't like this spot.

[steelcmg]

I would fold on the turn i think u are way behind and UTG+1 may still reraise here.

I also fold the turn. I might fold the flop but I am not sure. Definately the turn though.

[lufbradolly]

I think you have to fold this flop.

*grunch* i think i can dump this hand against co turn bet - he knows the tards think they have something worth raising (although it may be draws) and he bets into them (after they check). I think you're losing here most of the time - and gutshot to the ignorant end of the straight isn't enough for me to stick around for.

[Yerma]

You're supposed to fold the flop. If you didn't fold the flop, you're supposed to fold the turn. I'd have figured someone flopped two pairs and just play accordingly.