5/10 paradise vs fishy stackoff

[DavidC]

Paradise 5/10
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This is like my 5th- 15th hand at the table.

I'm BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gifT/images/graemlins/spade.gif.

3 folds, a limp, 2 folds, a limp, the sb completes, and I raise in the BB, all call.

FLOP: 5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif , 8sb, 4 players.
First guys bets out. He has about 2bb (4sb) left in his stack after the bet.

The button limper is an unknown with a 10bb stacks, and the guy to my direct left seems a little on the loose side.

I fold. With 3 players I might make a move and raise.

edit, didnt see the preflop rais. I raise this then.

[Rev. Good Will]

I don't like a fold here getting 1:9. I'm torn between calling and raising, but I'm not folding.

[POKhER]

How many outs do you give us?

[DavidC]

bump

How many outs? It's tough to say, but somewhere between 6 and zero. It's possible that we're still ahead, too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'd say it would be more reasonable that the SB would be betting a pocket pair or a flush draw here than a 5, but that's pretty unfounded...

It's obviously tough to know what our outs are before the others act.

In summary, bump.

--Dave.

[jaxUp]

you can either call here and raise the turn, or raise it now. The problem with waiting for the turn is that too many cards can kill us here. Raise that flop. He has crap most of the time, and if not, you've almost certainly got 6 live outs.

[lautzutao]

Saying a raise here is good, but you know that already/images/graemlins/grin.gif