TPTK .

[element00]

Haven't seen villian get out of line once...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB ($25)
UTG ($26.30)
MP ($50.12)
CO ($41.99)
Hero ($22.70)
SB ($15.74)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.8</font>, SB calls $3.80, CO folds.

Turn: ($11.60) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($11.60) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $

21.60

I could fold the river if villian hasn't gotten out of line. You aren't really beating anything, JT/QJ/J9/KJ all just got there, as did Kx/Qx.

I'd call quickly against a LAG however, and may call against a thinking TAG (but most likely not ever)...not necessarily to win the pot, but for future hands.

[PoBoy321]

Shouldn't this thread be called "River call with 2nd pair top kicker where every draw got there and the only J I'm beating is J8 or J7"?

I'm folding this river against a typical player 100% of the time. If I have a strong read I might call, but that's the only reason.

[mason55]

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where every draw got there

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The backdoor flush draw didn't get there /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I fold this river 99% of the time. That is a call me bet if I've ever seen one. Even if he's afraid of the 4-card straight he's probably bluffing you with the best hand.

[element00]

I deserved the diss /images/graemlins/wink.gif. It was a really bad play over all hehe. Just needed confirmation from outside sources.

[PoBoy321]

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I fold this river 99% of the time.

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You're probably spewing chips.

[mason55]

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I fold this river 99% of the time.

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You're probably spewing chips.

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Luckily there's no test to get my advice giving privlages around here.

HEE HAW

[xorbie]

Bet the turn because the board just got very draw heavy for a lot of hands which call the flop bet, not to mention that if you are behind you have like 3 outs anyway, so it's no big deal to fold to a checkraise. Check behind on river.