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10-17-2005, 05:16 PM
Was this a really bad play? I think I had to push through too many people...would this be ok if I had the button?
party 22, no reads.

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: HERO( $1090 )
Seat 2: Doncico ( $2615 ) (button)
Seat 5: Philboni ( $1280 ) ( SB )
Seat 9: pocketcrazy ( $810 ) ( BB )
Seat 10: tp2k3 ( $2205 )
Trny:16662128 Level:6
Blinds (100/200)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/spade.gif ]
tp2k3 folds.
HERO is all-In [1090]
Doncico calls [1090].
Philboni folds.
pocketcrazy folds.

Thxs for any help, brian

DMACM
10-17-2005, 05:18 PM
id push.

Manque
10-17-2005, 08:19 PM
It's not the bubble.

10-17-2005, 08:48 PM
I think you may be too results-oriented here. If you don't push here, the blinds are going to be eating you up. You are going to lose another 300 chips in the next 3 hands if you don't make a move, bringing you down to 790 - crippling you. If the blinds increase soon to 150/300, you have practically zero folding equity against the BB with 790 chips.

tigerite
10-17-2005, 09:01 PM
If you were in the button's position this would be a very standard push; as it is, well, it depends how loose he is. But even at his loosest it still means that SB and BB can call with a fairly loose range (most pairs, most suited aces kinda thing) and still be +EV for you.

vinyard
10-17-2005, 09:08 PM
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Was this a really bad play? I think I had to push through too many people...would this be ok if I had the button?

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Its a pretty marginal push. If think you can put the SB on a pretty narrow range to call here but I am far more worried about the looseness of the calling standards from the big stack and a big blind who might be desperate. And as a rule of thumb all pushes become much better if there is one fewer player left to act.

The problem with being very aggressive pushing at the 11s and 22s is that average player there is making a ton of far too loose calls that hurt both their and your $EV while greatly benefitting the rest of the table.

FWIW, I probably push this.

Hendricks433
10-17-2005, 09:13 PM
Not horrible but I dont like pushing into 3 players with Q high. I fold this. You probally shoulda pushed sooner.

Uppercut
10-17-2005, 10:30 PM
I push in this position approximately 100% percent of the time.