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10-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: Villain#1 ( $2125 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $2195 )
Seat 8: Villain#2 ( $2660 )
Seat 10:Villain#3 ( $3020 )
Blinds(250/500)
Folds around to Hero in the SB
Hero is dealt the A /images/graemlins/heart.gif 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Hero goes all in for $1945
Villain#2 calls $1625 with 10 /images/graemlins/spade.gif10 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Could someone do an ICM analysis for me on this? I'm perfectly happy with my push, but more wondering if I had been the villain here would I have been smart to call with the tens?
bigt439
10-17-2005, 04:43 PM
This is an incredibly easy call for the villain. +4.9% if you're pushing maniac, +3.8% for loose. It's hard to find moves with EV that high.
Amid Cent
10-17-2005, 04:48 PM
It was a good push and a good call. You ran into bad luck.
ace_in_the_hole
10-17-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm always calling in villains spot but I always expect to lose the hand, TT no good for me around the bubble. This looks liek a classic example of the cards dictating the game.
10-17-2005, 04:50 PM
Villain is major +EV to call here.

Bad luck.

Try again. LOL!
Scuba Chuck
10-17-2005, 04:53 PM
With the blinds this big, calling ranges change tremendously. TT is very easy here. I think I'd have a hard time folding a lot of pairs with these blinds.
10-17-2005, 04:58 PM
Just like to point out this conversation prior to this post:

Me: Surely villain can't even consider folding that hand there can he??

Spentrent: of course he can fool, i'd fold there all day long very loose call in my opinion, post on 2+2.

Me: I dunno, he already had 500 in the pot on top of it too.

Spentright: damn you suck, you don't deserve my gawdly advice.
spentrent
10-17-2005, 05:00 PM
I can't believe you are making fun of a poor soul who quit playing for a living 3 months ago.
spentrent
10-17-2005, 05:02 PM
ICM is hooey.
bigt439
10-17-2005, 05:07 PM
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I'm always calling in villains spot but I always expect to lose the hand, TT no good for me around the bubble.

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Please shut up.
10-17-2005, 05:12 PM
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I'm always calling in villains spot but I always expect to lose the hand, TT no good for me around the bubble.

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Please shut up.

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VNH. LOL!
valenzuela
10-17-2005, 05:28 PM
Once again we are looking into ridicoulously easy plays, easy push and easy call.
We really need to do a bubble guide and stucky it...maybe I will work something out( like adanthar bubble guide but mine will actually be an improved version of adanthar robotic guide, i will only change the bubble part however)
Onaflag
10-17-2005, 06:09 PM
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Once again we are looking into ridicoulously easy plays, easy push and easy call.
We really need to do a bubble guide and stucky it...maybe I will work something out( like adanthar bubble guide but mine will actually be an improved version of adanthar robotic guide, i will only change the bubble part however)

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Thanks in advance for this. Now you HAVE to do it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Onaflag.........
adanthar
10-17-2005, 11:45 PM
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Once again we are looking into ridicoulously easy plays, easy push and easy call.
We really need to do a bubble guide and stucky it...maybe I will work something out( like adanthar bubble guide but mine will actually be an improved version of adanthar robotic guide, i will only change the bubble part however)

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Go for it, I'm too lazy to fix it in the near future but it could definitely use a lot of improvement. I threw it together pretty quick and I know from that post you had in the thread you know where the flaws are.

BTW, I've gotten a couple of people sending me emails about that system working for them *with* the flawed bubble. Heh.