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gol4pro
10-16-2005, 01:14 AM
Villian is bad, 45/15/3

His hand range on the turn is KQ, AQ, TT, maaaayyyyybbbbeeee QJs. KK/AA are not completely out of the question.

I don't want to here the "don't post results." I'm posting them here for a very specific purpose. Do I even worry about TT here? Or just get the $$$$ in the middle.

***** Hand History for Game 2854632332 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 16, 00:44:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 36598 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: TheCloser777 ( $87.70 )
Seat 2: kakashiii ( $43.94 )
Seat 3: mbburch ( $59.08 )
Seat 4: saywhat4 ( $65.95 )
Seat 5: aaron7832 ( $48.55 )
Seat 8: VeggyFish ( $48.60 )
Seat 10: b1llf412 ( $48.80 )
Seat 6: Hayduke19 ( $67.15 )
Seat 7: ChuckT79 ( $42 )
Seat 9: sleepee ( $25 )
b1llf412 posts small blind [$0.25].
TheCloser777 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mbburch [ 2s 2d ]
kakashiii folds.
mbburch calls [$0.50].
saywhat4 folds.
aaron7832 folds.
Hayduke19 raises [$1.50].
>You have options at Table 36947 Table!.
ChuckT79 folds.
VeggyFish folds.
b1llf412 folds.
TheCloser777 raises [$2.50].
mbburch calls [$2.50].
Hayduke19 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Qd, Qc ]
TheCloser777 checks.
mbburch checks.
Hayduke19 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
TheCloser777 checks.
mbburch bets [$6].
>You have options at Table 36947 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36812 Table!.
Hayduke19 folds.
>You have options at Table 36586 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36812 Table!.
TheCloser777 raises [$12].
>You have options at Table 36947 Table!.
mbburch raises [$24].
TheCloser777 is all-In [$72.70]
mbburch is all-In [$26.08]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
mbburch shows [ 2s, 2d ] a full house, Twos full of queens.
TheCloser777 shows [ Tc, Td ] a full house, Tens full of queens.
TheCloser777 wins $28.62 from side pot #1 with a full house, Tens full of queens.
TheCloser777 wins $118.41 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of queens.

Bukem_
10-16-2005, 01:25 AM
He told you exactly what he had. So yes.

gol4pro
10-16-2005, 01:28 AM
Care to explain how he would play AA/KK/KQ/AQ differently than TT here?

Bukem_
10-16-2005, 01:37 AM
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Care to explain how he would play AA/KK/KQ/AQ differently than TT here?

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It's fairly transparent anytime bad aggressive players raise pre, checks flop, comes alive later.

This line cares 0% if you have a queen.. that should concern you.

beset7
10-16-2005, 01:48 AM
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Care to explain how he would play AA/KK/KQ/AQ differently than TT here?

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It's fairly transparent anytime bad aggressive players raise pre, checks flop, comes alive later.

This line cares 0% if you have a queen.. that should concern you.

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Isn't a Q his most likely hand here?

You are saying that if he hadn't included the results (which you shouldn't do BTW) you would have still advised a fold/caution?

Bukem_
10-16-2005, 01:54 AM
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You are saying that if he hadn't included the results (which you shouldn't do BTW) you would have still advised a fold/caution?

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As soon as I see that title and the check check on the flop I put him on TT or QQ before I saw the results.

If I don't have all that info, the turn mini cr is either tt, air, qt, qx, qq.....kj, in order or likelyhood. Calling usually best in that spot.

10-16-2005, 01:56 AM
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He told you exactly what he had. So yes.

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I don't think his hand is that transparent and I have seen plenty of players play a Q like this. AA and KK are much less likely but AQ or KQ is definitely possible. In fact, against a player with those stats, I think you will find he has a Q more often than a higher boat.