Getting tired of being white (7/11 trip report)

[JihadOnTheRiver]

I went to 7/11 today. I had a good little Larry David moment. At the door as I was leaving, there was a black guy, 25ish, who I stereotyped as 'empowerred' (I won't go any further with the stereotype or how I arrived at it). We brushed shoulders. This was the conversation:

Me: "Excuse me brother, my bad" (brother or 'bro' is standard speech for me, regardless of race)
BG: "Don't patronize me. I ain't your brother."
Me: "Are you serious? You gotta be kidding, right?"
BG: "[insert some random pride-based speech]"
Me: "Sorry, next time I see you, would you prefer Chief, Amigo, or [censored]?"

-JOTR

[STLantny]

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I went to 7/11 today. I had a good little Larry David moment. At the door as I was leaving, there was a black guy, 25ish, who I stereotyped as 'empowerred' (I won't go any further with the stereotype or how I arrived at it). We brushed shoulders. This was the conversation:

Me: "Excuse me brother, my bad" (brother or 'bro' is standard speech for me, regardless of race)
BG: "Don't patronize me. I ain't your brother."
Me: "Are you serious? You gotta be kidding, right?"
BG: "[insert some random pride-based speech]"
Me: "Sorry, next time I see you, would you prefer Chief, Amigo, or [censored]?"

-JOTR

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my bad? cmon.....

[siccjay]

Your next comeback would have to be "Gaylord"

[peachy]

i luv the word chief....the aussies i know say it all the time and its sooooooo hot

[JihadOnTheRiver]

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i luv the word chief....the aussies i know say it all the time and its sooooooo hot

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I was once told by an Indian Casino dealer to "watch it" using this word.

[B Dids]

This guy was clearly not familiar with Hulk Hogan's body of work.

WTF

[gildwulf]

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i luv the word chief....the aussies i know say it all the time and its sooooooo hot

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I was once told by an Indian Casino dealer to "watch it" using this word.

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Did you go jihad on his ass?

[Sponger15SB]

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i luv the word chief....the aussies i know say it all the time and its sooooooo hot

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I was once told by an Indian Casino dealer to "watch it" using this word.

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Obviously, you and him must bury the hatchet and smoke a peace pipe.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

excellent

[daryn]

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i luv the word chief....the aussies i know say it all the time and its sooooooo hot

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I was once told by an Indian Casino dealer to "watch it" using this word.

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Obviously, you and him must bury the hatchet and smoke a peace pipe.

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i believe the correct terminology is "smoke'em peace pipe"

That's it? Nothing after your last line? Damn, I was hoping for a full-blown "incident."

I've had similar "brushes." A lot of "whitey, crakcah, oh-preshun," etc., remarks hurled in my direction, followed by my usual, condescending-take-your-best-shot-or-STFU retorts. (I tend to get feisty when attacked.)

All of which could have been avoided had the "brushee" not been so friggin' uptight and convinced that any person not of his ethnic origin harbored anything but predjudice toward him.

[Sponger15SB]

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I won't go any further with the stereotype or how I arrived at it

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I'll just assume that you're David Duke's son then.

[Sponger15SB]

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i believe the correct terminology is "smoke'em peace pipe"

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Yeah, I was gonna type that but then it just looked really awkward in writing.

[A_C_Slater]

You should have responded "chill my nigga, we're cool, it's cool."

And elongate the pronunciation of "my."

[JihadOnTheRiver]

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I won't go any further with the stereotype or how I arrived at it

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I'll just assume that you're David Duke's son then.

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we go back

[asofel]

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You should have responded "chill my nigga, we're cool, it's cool."

And elongate the pronunciation of "my."

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for once peachy's 'mah' is correct

[STLantny]

i hvaent met any black dudes that you stereotype, except one. It was really odd, i was at a bar and there was this kid there that I thought I went to high school with, so I went up to him and asked if he was so and so from my high school, and the kid just started ranting, saying that all niggers must look alike to me, and Im racist etc, etc, I was wtfing out all over hte place, and said hey [censored] you, then went back to my group of friends (ironically 2 of the 4-5 were black) and told them what happened...very weird.

[vulturesrow]

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I went to 7/11 today. I had a good little Larry David moment. At the door as I was leaving, there was a black guy, 25ish, who I stereotyped as 'empowerred' (I won't go any further with the stereotype or how I arrived at it). We brushed shoulders. This was the conversation:

Me: "Excuse me brother, my bad" (brother or 'bro' is standard speech for me, regardless of race)
BG: "Don't patronize me. I ain't your brother."
Me: "Are you serious? You gotta be kidding, right?"
BG: "[insert some random pride-based speech]"
Me: "Sorry, next time I see you, would you prefer Chief, Amigo, or [censored]?"

-JOTR

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Why are you tired of being white now?

[theben]

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Me: "Excuse me brother, my bad"

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is it really that hard to say <font color="blue"> SIR </font>?

Of all people, I am certainly not liberal hippy, but I am all for common courtesy to strangers

[JihadOnTheRiver]

Watch BET comedy. That should sum it up. Nutshell: I'm not politically correct, and its getting harder to hide on a daily basis /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[vulturesrow]

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Watch BET comedy. That should sum it up. Nutshell: I'm not politically correct, and its getting harder to hide on a daily basis /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Thought there might be something about this particular incident. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[mason55]

I was at a bar last weekend with 3 large friends. I was the only white guy in the bar. Some dude handed me these books about the "white terrorist" and I was like "no, it's ok, i've read them before" (I actually had). For some reason he thought I was being patronizing and he started [censored] with me, calling me cracker and all this [censored]. I took two steps back and my 3 large friends took one step forward. The guy practically ran out the bar.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

Are you seriously suggesting that I was being rude by using that phraseology, sir?

[JihadOnTheRiver]

So you, a regular sized whitey, stepped into the shadows and your 3 large black friends stepped up for you? Thats fvcking awesome /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Blarg]

Bro and brother have a different context when it's a white guy talking to a black guy, and "my brother" used the way you use it is totally unrelated than casually tagging someone with "bro" or the like.

It does sound like you had a very corny delivery of a very corny line. I don't blame the black guy from feeling like you were trying to be an ingratiating cracker and feeling distaste about it, and that you were being ridiculous and patronizing. Your remark was some funny damn stuff. About telling you to stick it up your butt or whatever well deserved comeback he gave was a great idea, I don't know. I'm a white guy and I don't have to suffer silently through that fake friendly horsesh*t from phoney insecure white guys on probably a daily basis for decades, so I don't know how short a fuse someone else might have. You're definitely asking for trouble by being such a goofball, and you got it. It doesn't make him a nice guy for giving it to you, but it didn't exactly make you a nice guy when you did your wigger act either.

I'd call it a wash, at best.

And next time, don't be so uptight(read: fake cool, my bruthah). Black dudes are just people, and you don't need a hyped up cover story or different personality to talk to them. It's way more respectful and friendly not to point out the racial difference by doing some weird suck "my brotha" sh*t. Because if they don't matter, and they don't, then why the hell make a point of it? Especially so ridiculously.

I'm sure this will be seen as flameworthy to some, but it's an honest reading. I'd never be calling black dudes "my brother" unless I was in a Steve Martin Czechoslovakian playboys sketch on an old Saturday Night Live. Garrett Morris had an admirably thick skin for that kind of crap, especially when it was unintentional and came from people who were socially retarded.








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[mason55]

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So you, a regular sized whitey, stepped into the shadows and your 3 large black friends stepped up for you? Thats fvcking awesome /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yup, that about sums it up. I felt like kind of a pussy for not wanting to fight for myself but I had a bad feeling that, with me being the only honkey in the bar, it would turn into a racial thing with the whole bar if I tried to fight him.

[theben]

that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

[Blarg]

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You should have responded "chill my nigga, we're cool, it's cool."

And elongate the pronunciation of "my."

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Obviously, if he had popped his collar, it would have signalled that he was cool and the brotha would have given him a pass on it.

[STLantny]

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Bro and brother have a different context when it's a white guy talking to a black guy, and "my brother" used the way you use it is totally unrelated than casually tagging someone with "bro" or the like.

It does sound like you had a very corny delivery of a very corny line. I don't blame the black guy from feeling like you were trying to be an ingratiating cracker and feeling distaste about it, and that you were being ridiculous and patronizing. Your remark was some funny damn stuff. About telling you to stick it up your butt or whatever well deserved comeback he gave was a great idea, I don't know. I'm a white guy and I don't have to suffer silently through that fake friendly horsesh*t from phoney insecure white guys on probably a daily basis for decades, so I don't know how short a fuse someone else might have. You're definitely asking for trouble by being such a goofball, and you got it. It doesn't make him a nice guy for giving it to you, but it didn't exactly make you a nice guy when you did your wigger act either.

I'd call it a wash, at best.

And next time, don't be so uptight(read: fake cool, my bruthah). Black dudes are just people, and you don't need a hyped up cover story or different personality to talk to them. It's way more respectful and friendly not to point out the racial difference by doing some weird suck "my brotha" sh*t. Because if they don't matter, and they don't, then why the hell make a point of it? Especially so ridiculously.

I'm sure this will be seen as flameworthy to some, but it's an honest reading. I'd never be calling black dudes "my brother" unless I was in a Steve Martin Czechoslovakian playboys sketch on an old Saturday Night Live. Garrett Morris had an admirably thick skin for that kind of crap, especially when it was unintentional and came from people who were socially retarded.








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lighten up nancy. I dont see the point of all this bullshit, i call people brother all the time, white black asian whatever, and no one has ever said anything. anyone who thinks they can pin me as a racist because i use the word brother is wound up too tight, and deserves the ulcer they probably have.

[swede123]

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So you, a regular sized whitey, stepped into the shadows and your 3 large black friends stepped up for you? Thats fvcking awesome /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yup, that about sums it up. I felt like kind of a pussy for not wanting to fight for myself but I had a bad feeling that, with me being the only honkey in the bar, it would turn into a racial thing with the whole bar if I tried to fight him.

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...and there's no way you could even handle one black guy, much less a whole bar full being that they are so athletic and strong.

Swede

[mason55]

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...and there's no way you could even handle one black guy, much less a whole bar full being that they are so athletic and strong.

Swede

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Seriously. I mean... I was fighting genetics here.

[vulturesrow]

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that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

[Paluka]

Calling people brother is stupid.

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Calling people brother is stupid.

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So the [censored] what? It doesnt make you a racist or rude.

[STLantny]

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that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

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i address a lot of people (any race) my saying brother, or brotha, i think the people who get upset because "im speaking like they do" are the racists. the fact that you are a moron, and say its "their words" tells me you fall into this category. I dont think its fair, that people assume that I should act differently aroudn different types of people, [censored] that, ITS MAH HAWT BODY ILL DO WHAT I WANT

[swede123]

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Calling people brother is stupid.

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It is actually quite appropriate when addressing some bull dyke at the women's basketball game.

Swede

[JihadOnTheRiver]

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would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not.

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Yes, I would. And I believe I said it in the OP. Also, you sound like a complete idiot in this entire paragraph. "Their words"? Cmon dude... "observing blacks"? wow....

[TheCroShow]

you're a racist, it's ok, the world will always have racists. it's coo brutha

[JihadOnTheRiver]

Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

[vulturesrow]

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Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

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I am offended by your use of the word "man".

[theben]

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

[zuluking]

This whole thread is sad.

[Blarg]

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Bro and brother have a different context when it's a white guy talking to a black guy, and "my brother" used the way you use it is totally unrelated than casually tagging someone with "bro" or the like.

It does sound like you had a very corny delivery of a very corny line. I don't blame the black guy from feeling like you were trying to be an ingratiating cracker and feeling distaste about it, and that you were being ridiculous and patronizing. Your remark was some funny damn stuff. About telling you to stick it up your butt or whatever well deserved comeback he gave was a great idea, I don't know. I'm a white guy and I don't have to suffer silently through that fake friendly horsesh*t from phoney insecure white guys on probably a daily basis for decades, so I don't know how short a fuse someone else might have. You're definitely asking for trouble by being such a goofball, and you got it. It doesn't make him a nice guy for giving it to you, but it didn't exactly make you a nice guy when you did your wigger act either.

I'd call it a wash, at best.

And next time, don't be so uptight(read: fake cool, my bruthah). Black dudes are just people, and you don't need a hyped up cover story or different personality to talk to them. It's way more respectful and friendly not to point out the racial difference by doing some weird suck "my brotha" sh*t. Because if they don't matter, and they don't, then why the hell make a point of it? Especially so ridiculously.

I'm sure this will be seen as flameworthy to some, but it's an honest reading. I'd never be calling black dudes "my brother" unless I was in a Steve Martin Czechoslovakian playboys sketch on an old Saturday Night Live. Garrett Morris had an admirably thick skin for that kind of crap, especially when it was unintentional and came from people who were socially retarded.








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lighten up nancy. I dont see the point of all this bullshit, i call people brother all the time, white black asian whatever, and no one has ever said anything. anyone who thinks they can pin me as a racist because i use the word brother is wound up too tight, and deserves the ulcer they probably have.

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I didn't ask you to like the answer any more than you would ask me to not think you're calling people brother and thinking it was cool is not ridiculous.

It's still correct, and calling black people brother is pretty stupid. If you can't see why, that's your problem.

[swede123]

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Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

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Sorry brah, once you get the racist tag you can't ever get rid of it. Might as well start a new account around here, perhaps named SnugglesOnTheRiver.

Swede

[STLantny]

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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i hope you get hit by a car.

[theben]

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i address a lot of people (any race) my saying brother, or brotha, i think the people who get upset because "im speaking like they do" are the racists. the fact that you are a moron, and say its "their words" tells me you fall into this category. I dont think its fair, that people assume that I should act differently aroudn different types of people, [censored] that, ITS MAH HAWT BODY ILL DO WHAT I WANT

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so you are saying you are proud of the fact you don't know how to speak correct english? Pride for being ignorant? Thats like walking around, holding a sign saying "Get a brain, moran!"

[JihadOnTheRiver]

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Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

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Sorry brah, once you get the racist tag you can't ever get rid of it. Might as well start a new account around here, perhaps named SnugglesOnTheRiver.

Swede

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What's the proper slur for Swedish?

[Blarg]

Not enough of a functional difference to be worth mentioning.

For what it's worth, I don't think you're some terrible dude for saying what you said, but that it was hilariously inappropriate, and I can see why the black guy would think so. I don't think either of you guys handled it well after the initial gaffe.

[tdarko]

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Bro and brother have a different context when it's a white guy talking to a black guy, and "my brother" used the way you use it is totally unrelated than casually tagging someone with "bro" or the like.

It does sound like you had a very corny delivery of a very corny line. I don't blame the black guy from feeling like you were trying to be an ingratiating cracker and feeling distaste about it, and that you were being ridiculous and patronizing. Your remark was some funny damn stuff. About telling you to stick it up your butt or whatever well deserved comeback he gave was a great idea, I don't know. I'm a white guy and I don't have to suffer silently through that fake friendly horsesh*t from phoney insecure white guys on probably a daily basis for decades, so I don't know how short a fuse someone else might have. You're definitely asking for trouble by being such a goofball, and you got it. It doesn't make him a nice guy for giving it to you, but it didn't exactly make you a nice guy when you did your wigger act either.

I'd call it a wash, at best.

And next time, don't be so uptight(read: fake cool, my bruthah). Black dudes are just people, and you don't need a hyped up cover story or different personality to talk to them. It's way more respectful and friendly not to point out the racial difference by doing some weird suck "my brotha" sh*t. Because if they don't matter, and they don't, then why the hell make a point of it? Especially so ridiculously.

I'm sure this will be seen as flameworthy to some, but it's an honest reading. I'd never be calling black dudes "my brother" unless I was in a Steve Martin Czechoslovakian playboys sketch on an old Saturday Night Live. Garrett Morris had an admirably thick skin for that kind of crap, especially when it was unintentional and came from people who were socially retarded.


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lighten up brotha.

[vulturesrow]

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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Now I know who the stupidest person in OOT is now. Congrats! And for the record, if anyone wanted to fight me because I called them bro or brother, that would make them a far greater [censored] than me.


PS Would you want to fight me if I called you bro?

[STLantny]

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Bro and brother have a different context when it's a white guy talking to a black guy, and "my brother" used the way you use it is totally unrelated than casually tagging someone with "bro" or the like.

It does sound like you had a very corny delivery of a very corny line. I don't blame the black guy from feeling like you were trying to be an ingratiating cracker and feeling distaste about it, and that you were being ridiculous and patronizing. Your remark was some funny damn stuff. About telling you to stick it up your butt or whatever well deserved comeback he gave was a great idea, I don't know. I'm a white guy and I don't have to suffer silently through that fake friendly horsesh*t from phoney insecure white guys on probably a daily basis for decades, so I don't know how short a fuse someone else might have. You're definitely asking for trouble by being such a goofball, and you got it. It doesn't make him a nice guy for giving it to you, but it didn't exactly make you a nice guy when you did your wigger act either.

I'd call it a wash, at best.

And next time, don't be so uptight(read: fake cool, my bruthah). Black dudes are just people, and you don't need a hyped up cover story or different personality to talk to them. It's way more respectful and friendly not to point out the racial difference by doing some weird suck "my brotha" sh*t. Because if they don't matter, and they don't, then why the hell make a point of it? Especially so ridiculously.

I'm sure this will be seen as flameworthy to some, but it's an honest reading. I'd never be calling black dudes "my brother" unless I was in a Steve Martin Czechoslovakian playboys sketch on an old Saturday Night Live. Garrett Morris had an admirably thick skin for that kind of crap, especially when it was unintentional and came from people who were socially retarded.








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lighten up nancy. I dont see the point of all this bullshit, i call people brother all the time, white black asian whatever, and no one has ever said anything. anyone who thinks they can pin me as a racist because i use the word brother is wound up too tight, and deserves the ulcer they probably have.

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I didn't ask you to like the answer any more than you would ask me to not think you're calling people brother and thinking it was cool is not ridiculous.

It's still correct, and calling black people brother is pretty stupid. If you can't see why, that's your problem.

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I dont think its cool. Its just something that ive always said, I think my dad or one of my uncles calls everyone brother, so I picked it up when I was young. I just never thought abotu the ramifications of it, becasue anyone who is tight assed enough to call me a racist for saying thigns like that is nto worth my time. If everyone were like me, there would be no racism, its the people who have to start up with the issue that perpetuate the hate, imo.

[theben]

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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i hope you get hit by a car.

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Now you go around wishing violence and harm to come to others? This isn't much different from wishing a drive by on somebody so they get 'smoked' because they are 'trippin'

people like you don't deserve to live in america

[daryn]

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Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

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Sorry brah, once you get the racist tag you can't ever get rid of it. Might as well start a new account around here, perhaps named SnugglesOnTheRiver.

Swede

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What's the proper slur for Swedish?

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www.rsdb.org (http://www.rsdb.org)

thank me later

[Blarg]

Not appropriate. The comment was extremely fair.

[swede123]

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Jesus H. Christ. I didn't say "my brutha". I said something that included the word "bro". Man...

-JihadOnTheACLU

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Sorry brah, once you get the racist tag you can't ever get rid of it. Might as well start a new account around here, perhaps named SnugglesOnTheRiver.

Swede

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What's the proper slur for Swedish?

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Silly goose, there is no need for slurs when addressing someone of a perfect race.

Swede

[Blarg]

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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i hope you get hit by a car.

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Is this from the "lighten up" school of thought?

[STLantny]

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i address a lot of people (any race) my saying brother, or brotha, i think the people who get upset because "im speaking like they do" are the racists. the fact that you are a moron, and say its "their words" tells me you fall into this category. I dont think its fair, that people assume that I should act differently aroudn different types of people, [censored] that, ITS MAH HAWT BODY ILL DO WHAT I WANT

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You guys do have perfectly chisseled facial features and excellent metabolism....Dolph...

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Sorry brah, once you get the racist tag you can't ever get rid of it. Might as well start a new account around here, perhaps named SnugglesOnTheRiver.

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www.rsdb.org (http://www.rsdb.org)

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Swede, the Swedish Meatball.

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Funny you should ask, since that pretty much was what my peer group in high school was. They never seemed to have a problem with it.

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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yes, people like me, who dont promot seperation of race, and wish harm on ignorant racist [censored] like you do not deserve to live in america....

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End the racial tension. Share the love. (http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/)

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There are some really uptight people in OOT. For the record, I call people brother, white or black, all the time. Who the [censored] wants to walk around all the time worrying about this [censored].

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare

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yes, it is, as in, it was a joke......

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Funny you should ask, since that pretty much was what my peer group in high school was. They never seemed to have a problem with it.

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There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid.

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I dont think its cool. Its just something that ive always said, I think my dad or one of my uncles calls everyone brother, so I picked it up when I was young. I just never thought abotu the ramifications of it, becasue anyone who is tight assed enough to call me a racist for saying thigns like that is nto worth my time.

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Umm ... so you're saying both that you've never thought about it the ramifications, but if there are any, you've already determined it must be that someone else is the party who is looking at things the wrong way?

A better approach to things you haven't thought through the ramifications of is clearly to put yourself on the same footing as them and step back from the situation, not just grant yourself a free pass on your unexamined behavior and make the other guy into the bad guy automatically.

There's nothing wrong with having the ability to not react to confrontations by going into a defensive shell or automatically having the attitude of attacking back. Sometimes, we can just do things a better way. It's worth thinking about if making special allowances for people might be doing things a better way. It would hardly kill ya, and being respectful of people is not the huge sacrifice that so many people seem to think it is. You don't have to like or agree with someone's point of view to respect them and treat them decently. And it's really nuts to turn them into the bad guy when you get caught out at being a clod.

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Now I know who the stupidest person in OOT is now. Congrats! And for the record, if anyone wanted to fight me because I called them bro or brother, that would meake them a far greater [censored] than me.

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Funny you should ask, since that pretty much was what my peer group in high school was. They never seemed to have a problem with it.

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There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid.

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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

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Yeah, it kinda got away from me. I think I stabbed somebody with a trident at some point. But its funny watching 3 or 4 peoples head explode over the inappropriate use of the word brother.

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Trust me when I say that the guys I hung out with wouldnt have given a flying [censored] about someone saying brother to them, esp. in a situation like the OP. If you arent black yourself, then I am quite sure I have a better idea of a black guy's POV than you do.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

How can I get my title changed from "old hand" to "racist" or possibly "brotha". Is that a mod thing?

[tdarko]

i would like mine changed to "marinatin'."

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I dont think its cool. Its just something that ive always said, I think my dad or one of my uncles calls everyone brother, so I picked it up when I was young. I just never thought abotu the ramifications of it, becasue anyone who is tight assed enough to call me a racist for saying thigns like that is nto worth my time.

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Umm ... so you're saying both that you've never thought about it the ramifications, but if there are any, you've already determined it must be that someone else is the party who is looking at things the wrong way?

A better approach to things you haven't thought through the ramifications of is clearly to put yourself on the same footing as them and step back from the situation, not just grant yourself a free pass on your unexamined behavior and make the other guy into the bad guy automatically.

There's nothing wrong with having the ability to not react to confrontations by going into a defensive shell or automatically having the attitude of attacking back. Sometimes, we can just do things a better way. It's worth thinking about if making special allowances for people might be doing things a better way. It would hardly kill ya, and being respectful of people is not the huge sacrifice that so many people seem to think it is. You don't have to like or agree with someone's point of view to respect them and treat them decently. And it's really nuts to turn them into the bad guy when you get caught out at being a clod.

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no, the point is I HAVE HAD NO RAMIFICATIONS. I dont pander, by changing the way you speak to certain people, it alienates them, becaue THEY KNOW YOU ARE DOING IT. Ive never, other than one time (probably becaue the kid was drunk), ever had any problem like hte OP. I am not labeling anyone but the white folks in this thread for being bad guys. you change your words because you think that you knwo how someone acts just because they are not hte same color as you...that is blatant racism imo.

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that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

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Uh, is that called stereotyping? Or racial profiling?

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Trust me when I say that the guys I hung out with wouldnt have given a flying [censored] about someone saying brother to them, esp. in a situation like the OP. If you arent black yourself, then I am quite sure I have a better idea of a black guy's POV than you do.

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the key word is 'the guys I HUNG OUT WITH'

they are your friends. you could go up to one and say "i stuck it in your mom's pooper last night". they'd take it as a joke and laugh, either that or just not care. the reason you can call them 'brotha' is because you know them as friends and can say what you please.

however, you can't go around saying just anything to strangers. many people would take that as offensive and find it to be disrespectful. you base your experience off calling other black people 'brotha' from refering to your friends in that manner. but do you/habe you really gone around speaking that way to totally random poeple?

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that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

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Yeah, it kinda got away from me. I think I stabbed somebody with a trident at some point. But its funny watching 3 or 4 peoples head explode over the inappropriate use of the word brother.

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Then you clearly never learned how to interact with strangers. You are not supposed to go around calling poeple 'brother'. It probably will get you in a fight one day. You should learn the basic, simple principles of common courtesy or else you'll behave no better than all the loud-mouthed thuggish porch monkeys on welfare


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Damn, missed another memo!

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Okay, my brotha. The following isn't directed to you or anyone specifically, by the way, but is just about the way a thread like this is shaping up. I knew the reactions would be sharp and over-defensive.

Funny thing is, this is a comment about social courtesies, which are mild things, but questioning people on these issues can make them go nuts.

That's reason enough to consider doing them right instead of brushing them off; all the poor white dudes feeling sorry for themselves because they might be construed as racists for social gaffes should be at least as indulgent with others as themselves, considering how easily hurt their feelings seem to be. People who don't like being thought of as racists should easily be able to understand that nobody wants to be approached in a racial fashion instead of just as a person, without having race even enter into it. A little courtesy is no effort at all and well worth it to prevent others from feeling just as bad as you might feel when caught out.

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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

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If you viewed the world as colorblind, you would go around addressing EVERYBODY in the exact same manner. Do you go up to black people and say 'whatup brotha' and then go up to a 50 year old white person and say 'whatup brotha' as well? I highly doubt that.

Are you not aware that there are a reasonable amount of black people who would be offended by a being addressed to as 'brotha' by a white person? Can you not see how this can be percieved as disrespect?

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Now I know who the stupidest person in OOT is now. Congrats! And for the record, if anyone wanted to fight me because I called them bro or brother, that would meake them a far greater [censored] than me.

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Have you ever actually interacted with significant amounts of poverty-sticken african americans living in slums? Try walking up to a large group of african americans in 'the hood' and saying 'whadup brothas'. see how they greet you

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Funny you should ask, since that pretty much was what my peer group in high school was. They never seemed to have a problem with it.

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There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid.

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This is true.

And it's mind boggling that anyone would even dream of applying the social rules among their high school buddies to the world at large. That's just crazy talk!

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Missed that one, too! Dammit, who do I complain to about this crap? I'm not getting my memoes!!! I want an investigation!

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Trust me when I say that the guys I hung out with wouldnt have given a flying [censored] about someone saying brother to them, esp. in a situation like the OP. If you arent black yourself, then I am quite sure I have a better idea of a black guy's POV than you do.

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There definitely is no more than one type of black guy. And that would be the kind you met in high school. They're pretty much all alike.

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Trust me when I say that the guys I hung out with wouldnt have given a flying [censored] about someone saying brother to them, esp. in a situation like the OP. If you arent black yourself, then I am quite sure I have a better idea of a black guy's POV than you do.

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the key word is 'the guys I HUNG OUT WITH'

they are your friends. you could go up to one and say "i stuck it in your mom's pooper last night". they'd take it as a joke and laugh, either that or just not care. the reason you can call them 'brotha' is because you know them as friends and can say what you please.

however, you can't go around saying just anything to strangers. many people would take that as offensive and find it to be disrespectful. you base your experience off calling other black people 'brotha' from refering to your friends in that manner. but do you/habe you really gone around speaking that way to totally random poeple?

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YOu really are dumb. I am telling you that I hung out with these guys and they wouldnt have cared about someone calling them brother..Im not just talking about what I said to them. And for the record, Ive called people of all ethnicities brother and never had anyone react negatively. Really, I am done with this discussion, because you are obviously an oversensitive assclown and people like you are bad for my blood pressure. As Antny was ssaying, the most patronizing thing you can do is act like you can only talk a certain way around someone because of the color of their skin. I doubt you are going to be able to grasp that concept.

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Uh, is that called stereotyping? Or racial profiling?

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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

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If you viewed the world as colorblind, you would go around addressing EVERYBODY in the exact same manner. Do you go up to black people and say 'whatup brotha' and then go up to a 50 year old white person and say 'whatup brotha' as well? I highly doubt that.

Are you not aware that there are a reasonable amount of black people who would be offended by a being addressed to as 'brotha' by a white person? Can you not see how this can be percieved as disrespect?

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Yes i do, that is my point. Maybe not an old lady because shes old and not male. I will admit i treat people of different ages differently. I dont call a 19 year old kid sir, nor do I call an 80 year old man brother (wait no, I take that back, I probably would). I know a "resonable" amount of black people and none have ever said anything about hte way I talk, and enjoy my company/vice versa....

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Dude, you don't get it. It's not about whether you're being racist, it's about not offending the person. If you're white, calling a random black person 'brother' can obviously be offensive to some black people, and I can see why. Therefore it's stupid to do it.

Nobody cares if you live in you're own ideological world where you can say whatever you want to whoever you want regaurdless of race (as it really should be), because that's just not how it really works, face it.

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I dont think its cool. Its just something that ive always said, I think my dad or one of my uncles calls everyone brother, so I picked it up when I was young. I just never thought abotu the ramifications of it, becasue anyone who is tight assed enough to call me a racist for saying thigns like that is nto worth my time.

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Umm ... so you're saying both that you've never thought about it the ramifications, but if there are any, you've already determined it must be that someone else is the party who is looking at things the wrong way?

A better approach to things you haven't thought through the ramifications of is clearly to put yourself on the same footing as them and step back from the situation, not just grant yourself a free pass on your unexamined behavior and make the other guy into the bad guy automatically.

There's nothing wrong with having the ability to not react to confrontations by going into a defensive shell or automatically having the attitude of attacking back. Sometimes, we can just do things a better way. It's worth thinking about if making special allowances for people might be doing things a better way. It would hardly kill ya, and being respectful of people is not the huge sacrifice that so many people seem to think it is. You don't have to like or agree with someone's point of view to respect them and treat them decently. And it's really nuts to turn them into the bad guy when you get caught out at being a clod.

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no, the point is I HAVE HAD NO RAMIFICATIONS. I dont pander, by changing the way you speak to certain people, it alienates them, becaue THEY KNOW YOU ARE DOING IT. Ive never, other than one time (probably becaue the kid was drunk), ever had any problem like hte OP. I am not labeling anyone but the white folks in this thread for being bad guys. you change your words because you think that you knwo how someone acts just because they are not hte same color as you...that is blatant racism imo.

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That's absolutely miserable logic.

I'm outta this thread now. If "nowhere" had degrees, I'd rather not explore them any further as this thread spirals downward into yet further stupidity.

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that was absolutely rude. would you address another white guy as a "brotha"? I think not. you used a term that is generally regarded as one of "thier words". it has been my experience from observing blacks that they speak differently from white people and seem to take offense to white people addressing them in the manner they use to communiate amongst themselves. they feel it is disrespectful. just like the word 'nigga'; it is thier word

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lighten up, jk abotu the last part

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Trust me when I say that the guys I hung out with wouldnt have given a flying [censored] about someone saying brother to them, esp. in a situation like the OP. If you arent black yourself, then I am quite sure I have a better idea of a black guy's POV than you do.

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You know, this thread is the first time I think Ive seen a post of yours where I thouht you were flat out wrong. And I am sure you dont seriously think I believe that there is only one type of black guy in the world. Within their community, the guys I hung with were a pretty diverse group and so I feel comfortable making the generalization. There probably are black guys who get upset about this. The funny thing is that I am unfailingly polite to people and have never had a problem with using the word brother. Being genuine is really all that is required.

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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

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If you viewed the world as colorblind, you would go around addressing EVERYBODY in the exact same manner. Do you go up to black people and say 'whatup brotha' and then go up to a 50 year old white person and say 'whatup brotha' as well? I highly doubt that.

Are you not aware that there are a reasonable amount of black people who would be offended by a being addressed to as 'brotha' by a white person? Can you not see how this can be percieved as disrespect?

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Yes i do, that is my point. Maybe not an old lady because shes old and not male. I will admit i treat people of different ages differently. I dont call a 19 year old kid sir, nor do I call an 80 year old man brother (wait no, I take that back, I probably would). I know a "resonable" amount of black people and none have ever said anything about hte way I talk, and enjoy my company/vice versa....

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I do adjust how I speak based on age, but not race. It is socially acceptable to address people differently based on age and everybody does it. however, it is not acceptable to address people differently based on race unless requested.

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i like it. you generally strike me as the marinatin type of brotha. so how does it git r dun (sorry that was redneckist)?

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There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid.



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Rather racist, in my honky way of thinking. And back a few posts ago you didn't capitalize African American. Won't swear to it, but I think that would have been proper. Or at least respectful.

[HopeydaFish]

You need to adjust your sarcasm detector.

[imported_anacardo]

I can't decide whether you're putting on some brilliant gag, or are in fact one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

History tempts me to go with the latter. But the former would be really impressive.

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History tempts me to go with the latter. But the former would be really impressive.

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Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[ethan]

[ QUOTE ]
-JihadOnTheACLU

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to go ahead and guess that you don't have the slightest clue what the ACLU actually does.

I don't think saying "brother" should have caused you any grief, but I can't say I'm entirely surprised it did. The guy you bumped is probably wound a little tighter than is necessary, and you probably shouldn't be shocked that saying "brother" will set some people off.

Then again, some people are just looking for an excuse to pick a fight. Meh. Given this sort of confrontation, I tend to just roll my eyes and leave.

[theben]

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There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid.



[/ QUOTE ]

"them"

Rather racist, in my honky way of thinking. And back a few posts ago you didn't capitalize African American. Won't swear to it, but I think that would have been proper. Or at least respectful.

[/ QUOTE ]

the word 'them' was reffering to people classified as friends. if i was reffering only to black people, i would have specified

[JihadOnTheRiver]

Yes I'm aware of what the ACLU does and does not do. This thread just got too god damn funny and I can no longer respond seriously to anything.

-The Amazing Racist

[TheCroShow]

[ QUOTE ]
the key word is 'the guys I HUNG OUT WITH'

they are your friends. you could go up to one and say "i stuck it in your mom's pooper last night". they'd take it as a joke and laugh, either that or just not care. the reason you can call them 'brotha' is because you know them as friends and can say what you please.

however, you can't go around saying just anything to strangers. many people would take that as offensive and find it to be disrespectful. you base your experience off calling other black people 'brotha' from refering to your friends in that manner. but do you/habe you really gone around speaking that way to totally random poeple?

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down brother. it's like that scene in "Can't Hardly Wait" when the gangsta wannabe walks up to a few black guys and says "what's up my niggaz?!?!?!" they kick the crap out of him.

it's all about the comfort zone, whether you are approaching a white/black/asian/indian/latin guy, it can be seen as a racial remark. especially the way some white ppl talk, "OHHHH excuse me BROTHER," or whatever.

in all seriousness i do not believe you are a racists, but do not be surprised if this happens again. subsitute "brother" or "bro" for "sir" or maybe even "DUUUUUDE."

[theben]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I can't decide whether you're putting on some brilliant gag, or are in fact one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

History tempts me to go with the latter. But the former would be really impressive.

[/ QUOTE ]

Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a troll to you only because you disagree with some of the stuff i frequently say. I certainly recall us having a heated argument on something in the past, which clearly has had a lasting impact on your view of me and continued to this thread

[tdarko]

i try to be a relaxed individual. sometimes it doesn't work (if you remember a snapping thread i made awhile back), but yeah in person i am usually fairly laid back and it works well for me.

marinating is a word i have used for a long time that has caught on with everyone around me. (i know a lot of you have used this word and i am not saying i invented it or anything before you start arguing)

[ QUOTE ]
Yes I'm aware of what the ACLU does and does not do. This thread just got too god damn funny and I can no longer respond seriously to anything.

-The Amazing Racist

[/ QUOTE ]

"Funny!" Hell, it got freakin' rioutous!

I think it's all gone to show how super-sensitive people have become. All races. PC run amok.

JOTR, thnx for anuther good'un. I'm haulin' my boney ass ta bed.

[razor]

[ QUOTE ]
EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

[/ QUOTE ]

uh... but didn't this whole thread start because of an incident where a white dude claims he was not being patronizing, yet the black dude thought otherwise?

Are you suggesting that the OP is not comfortable interacting with and being around people of other races?

[theben]

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I can't decide whether you're putting on some brilliant gag, or are in fact one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

History tempts me to go with the latter. But the former would be really impressive.

[/ QUOTE ]

Anacardo,

Certainly the following statement is NOT a gag:
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"There is a profound difference between how you can act with your close friends and what you can say in front of them compared to how you can behave against complete strangers. i'd wager since they were your close friends, you could say absolutely anything to them. consequently, your arguement in this case is completely invalid."
</font>

This is very true. everybody can and does act differenly with friends. but in dealing with strangers, one simply must be on better behavoir and act more considerately

note - - one of my other replies was blatantly racist regardless of the POV you take, and that was meant to 'see what happens'.

[STLantny]

[ QUOTE ]
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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

[/ QUOTE ]

uh... but didn't this whole thread start because of an incident where a white dude claims he was not being patronizing, yet the black dude thought otherwise?

Are you suggesting that the OP is not comfortable interacting with and being around people of other races?

[/ QUOTE ]

i said i was done with this thread, but just for clarity sake, since there is no opinion involved..just housekeeping...no, I was not talkign about the OP, that was either directed at blarg or the ben. Its flatmodes fault not mine....

[imported_anacardo]

I would say calling people "porch monkeys" = pretty [censored] racist. Again, I'm allowing for the possibility that that was a brilliantly executed gag, but I have trouble giving you that kind of credit.

[ethan]

[ QUOTE ]
www.rsdb.org (http://www.rsdb.org)

thank me later

[/ QUOTE ]
This is awesome.

[razor]

[ QUOTE ]
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EHHHH wrong. See thast the point, you are obv not comfortable around people from other racists, so you feel you have to change because of your preconceived notions. People know when you are pandering to them, and when you are just being yourself. if you truly dont stereotype people (which you obv do) you would be able to talk however you want to whomever you want and no one would say a thing...at least that is my experience.

[/ QUOTE ]

uh... but didn't this whole thread start because of an incident where a white dude claims he was not being patronizing, yet the black dude thought otherwise?

Are you suggesting that the OP is not comfortable interacting with and being around people of other races?

[/ QUOTE ]

i said i was done with this thread, but just for clarity sake, since there is no opinion involved..just housekeeping...no, I was not talkign about the OP, that was either directed at blarg or the ben. Its flatmodes fault not mine....

[/ QUOTE ]

Obviously you WEREN'T talking about the OP. However, IF you theory on social interaction is correct, that would seem to me to be the logical conclusion.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
www.rsdb.org (http://www.rsdb.org)

thank me later

[/ QUOTE ]
This is awesome.

[/ QUOTE ]

this one was funny on many different levels...

Democrats ---- Blacks ----- A popular political affiliation among African Americans. Also in reference to always wanting stuff for free.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

and they said oot was dying.....

[theben]

[ QUOTE ]
I would say calling people "porch monkeys" = pretty [censored] racist. Again, I'm allowing for the possibility that that was a brilliantly executed gag, but I have trouble giving you that kind of credit.

[/ QUOTE ]

if you have a lot of time on your hands, read all my replies. that one post was clearly racist, no matter how you interpret it.

now read the other posts and you'll see from a certain point of view, they might be racist but from many other POVs they are not. my other posts recognize that there are in fact differences between all the various races of people in this country/world. to say that there aren't differences is a statement of pure ignorance. I was simply trying to defend the point that it is a bad idea to address black people as 'botha' as opposed to something like "sir or mister". read my original post for further info on that. I was also calling people out who claimed to address all strangers, both black and white as 'brotha', telling them they were either lying or just being stupid. finally, i wanted people to realize that some people will be insulted if they are called 'brotha'

[HopeydaFish]

[ QUOTE ]
Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a troll to you only because you disagree with some of the stuff i frequently say. I certainly recall us having a heated argument on something in the past, which clearly has had a lasting impact on your view of me and continued to this thread

[/ QUOTE ]

We've never had a "heated" argument. I've learned not to feed the trolls.

[theben]

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Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a troll to you only because you disagree with some of the stuff i frequently say. I certainly recall us having a heated argument on something in the past, which clearly has had a lasting impact on your view of me and continued to this thread

[/ QUOTE ]

We've never had a "heated" argument. I've learned not to feed the trolls.

[/ QUOTE ]

well, you certainly whined and cried, making about 10 pointless replies in one thread trying to prove and defend one of the many incorrect ideas you have

[imported_anacardo]

Thank you for the recap. I'm sure you'll get a solid B+ on your term paper. Now.

[ QUOTE ]
now read the other posts and you'll see from a certain point of view, they might be racist but from many other POVs they are not.

[/ QUOTE ]

What the [censored] do you mean by this? Spell it out. No jibber-jabber. I'm a little slow.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
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Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a troll to you only because you disagree with some of the stuff i frequently say. I certainly recall us having a heated argument on something in the past, which clearly has had a lasting impact on your view of me and continued to this thread

[/ QUOTE ]

We've never had a "heated" argument. I've learned not to feed the trolls.

[/ QUOTE ]

well, you certainly whined and cried, making about 10 pointless replies in one thread trying to prove and defend one of the many incorrect ideas you have

[/ QUOTE ]
ur mom goes to college... teeheehee

[gildwulf]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Read some of his other posts. He just likes to argue. He's basically a troll.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm a troll to you only because you disagree with some of the stuff i frequently say. I certainly recall us having a heated argument on something in the past, which clearly has had a lasting impact on your view of me and continued to this thread

[/ QUOTE ]

We've never had a "heated" argument. I've learned not to feed the trolls.

[/ QUOTE ]

well, you certainly whined and cried, making about 10 pointless replies in one thread trying to prove and defend one of the many incorrect ideas you have

[/ QUOTE ]

This thread is a trainwreck.

[theben]

[ QUOTE ]

lighten up nancy. I dont see the point of all this bullshit, i call people brother all the time, white black asian whatever, and no one has ever said anything. anyone who thinks they can pin me as a racist because i use the word brother is wound up too tight, and deserves the ulcer they probably have.

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you not understand the simple fact that not everybody thinks this way and feels its perfectly acceptable for white people to address black people as 'botha'? can you not see that some may take offense and find being calling 'brotha' disrespectful?

it is a familiar, informal greeting. common social etiquette states that one should address strangers in a formal and respect manner so as not to offend them. black people might think that because you aren't using a formal, respectful greeting that you look down on them

[-Skeme-]

[ QUOTE ]
Obviously, you and him must bury the hatchet and smoke a peace pipe.

[/ QUOTE ]

I really thought you'd use the word firewater in this sentence.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
This thread is a trainwreck.

[/ QUOTE ]
Agreed. 110 replies in 2 hours tends to lean towards AFU. I'm goin to bed. I'm gonna dream pointy-hatted dreams...

[HopeydaFish]

[ QUOTE ]
well, you certainly whined and cried, making about 10 pointless replies in one thread trying to prove and defend one of the many incorrect ideas you have

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no idea what you're referring to. It's possible we disagreed on something at some point, but I've obviously forgotten about it. And since I've forgotten about it, it has no bearing on my viewpoint that you're a troll.

[John Ho]

Well put.

Call 100 black women "sister" and see the reactions you get.


[ QUOTE ]
Dude, you don't get it. It's not about whether you're being racist, it's about not offending the person. If you're white, calling a random black person 'brother' can obviously be offensive to some black people, and I can see why. Therefore it's stupid to do it.

Nobody cares if you live in you're own ideological world where you can say whatever you want to whoever you want regaurdless of race (as it really should be), because that's just not how it really works, face it.

[/ QUOTE ]

[theben]

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Thank you for the recap. I'm sure you'll get a solid B+ on your term paper. Now.

[ QUOTE ]
now read the other posts and you'll see from a certain point of view, they might be racist but from many other POVs they are not.

[/ QUOTE ]

What the [censored] do you mean by this? Spell it out. No jibber-jabber. I'm a little slow.

[/ QUOTE ]

what i am saying is that my other posts argue that you should speak to all strangers, black people included in a respect manner (address with sir, mister).

some of the ways i worded the posts may appear racist to some people, but all they are doing is recognizing that there do exist difference between different races and cultures.

one of my biggest arguements was about somebody saying that he used to hang out with mostly black poeple and call them all 'brotha', ad from his experiences felt it was acceptable to address in public all other black people that way. I simply wanted him to understand
1) the difference between how you act with friends VS strangers, and
2) all people are different and that just because his friends might be cool with ANYTHING, doesnt mean everybody else will be

[John Ho]

So if you called every male "big guy" and every girl "gorgeous" would it surprise you that an obviously fat guy and obviously ugly girl might take offense at your statement if they were complete strangers?

[ QUOTE ]
lighten up nancy. I dont see the point of all this bullshit, i call people brother all the time, white black asian whatever, and no one has ever said anything. anyone who thinks they can pin me as a racist because i use the word brother is wound up too tight, and deserves the ulcer they probably have.

[/ QUOTE ]

[billyjex]

obviously this black guy was out of line. they tend to be feel inferior, as an inferior race, and need to play these "race cards" to feel signifigant in society.

<font color="white"> I don't really believe this, but this is to piss you nits off.</font>

[dibbs]

Were you trying to start a fight? Bro or man will work better here.

[Phoenix1010]

I hate white people.

[imported_anacardo]

So, basically, you're saying you're a racist.

"You know, there are differences between races and cultures. Some of them happen to be drugged-out, ganged-up hoodlums, one and all, that are a disgrace to God-fearing American society, what with their 'do rags and their godawful slurring speech patterns. That's all I'm saying. Now, that might sound racist to YOU..."

JihadOnTheRiver doesn't care about black people.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
JihadOnTheRiver doesn't care about black people.

[/ QUOTE ]hey genius, if you are going to start a dumb gimmick account, atleast get the location right.

Hey there, my negro.

[TheCroShow]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
JihadOnTheRiver doesn't care about black people.

[/ QUOTE ]hey genius, if you are going to start a dumb gimmick account, atleast get the location right.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol owned

So basically you are getting tired of being a [censored] social retard, and most people assume this is being white, so yeah, i guess you are tired of being white. Anyone who doesn't realize how another person interprets their comments when it is so obvious might as well just get a job at 7-11 and punch themselves in the face.

[J_V]

The other guy was justified and you were justified in getting your ass beat.

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
JihadOnTheRiver doesn't care about black people.

[/ QUOTE ]
http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/Mike-Myers-wtf.jpg

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
The other guy was justified and you were justified in getting your ass beat.

[/ QUOTE ]
lol. i have no more energy to tell you how retarded this is, so i won't

[theben]

[ QUOTE ]
So, basically, you're saying you're a racist.

"You know, there are differences between races and cultures. Some of them happen to be drugged-out, ganged-up hoodlums, one and all, that are a disgrace to God-fearing American society, what with their 'do rags and their godawful slurring speech patterns. That's all I'm saying. Now, that might sound racist to YOU..."

[/ QUOTE ]

if that is your view of me, then so be it. I don't particularly like any of the segments of soceity you mentioned--most people (but not every single one) of the degenerate hoodlums or the god squad creationist morons. If that makes me racist, then so be it. if you don't think there are significant differences in the behavior, lifestyles, and values between each subculture and ethnicity in this country, then it is certainly your right to think that way even if it is totally incorrect.

[vulturesrow]

You are a bad man. Bad Jihad, bad!! You deserve to have your ass beat for saying 'brother'! Yeah thats the ticket.

[theben]

[ QUOTE ]
obviously this black guy was out of line. they tend to be feel inferior, as an inferior race, and need to play these "race cards" to feel signifigant in society.

<font color="blue"> I don't really believe this, but this is to piss you nits off.</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

im busting your little charade. its for your own good to protect you from all the mentally retarded ultra liberal trolls with no understanding of society

[JihadOnTheRiver]

[ QUOTE ]
I hate white people.

[/ QUOTE ]

This was the point I was basically trying to get to that got lost in all the racism fights. A black person says this, its funny or at least understandable. But I use the word "bro" or "brother" (NOT 'MY BRUTHA' OR 'BROTHER MAN'), and I'm basically painted racist. Its unbelievable to me that society still functions with some of you uptight retards always trying to make a point to make yourself feel better about something I don't understand.

-Jihaaaaaaaad

[B Dids]

I usually lean towards the PC side of things, but I think you're off base here.

The fact is that there does exist a group of people who simply refer to everybody else as "brother". It's one of those weird things that isn't really regional, but we all know it exists.

While if you were really thinking, it's probably on the polite side of things to avoid saying that to somebody who might take it the wrong way, but at the same time I think it's fair that a plack person in this spot understand that the person is likely not using the word with the same meaning.

The original poster clearly has some issues with race, and is overreacting and projecting some attitude onto the guy he met. However, it does sound like the guy he met probably overreacted.

[vulturesrow]

</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
The original poster clearly has some issues with race, and is overreacting and projecting some attitude onto the guy he met.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow you figured all that out just from a post on an internet discussion board. Bravo.

[B Dids]

This is far from his first post where he's come off like a bigot.

[Phoenix1010]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I hate white people.

[/ QUOTE ]

This was the point I was basically trying to get to that got lost in all the racism fights. A black person says this, its funny or at least understandable. But I use the word "bro" or "brother" (NOT 'MY BRUTHA' OR 'BROTHER MAN'), and I'm basically painted racist. Its unbelievable to me that society still functions with some of you uptight retards always trying to make a point to make yourself feel better about something I don't understand.

-Jihaaaaaaaad

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not black. And I don't hate all white people. Just you.

[vulturesrow]

</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
This is far from his first post where he's come off like a bigot.

[/ QUOTE ]

What exactly persuaded you that he is a bigot? Because he calls black people brother?

[ QUOTE ]


...And I don't hate all white people. Just you.



[/ QUOTE ]

I just love it when "peace loving, progressive thinking, etc.," folks lash out with statements like this. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Think I'll go out and play with my inner child.

[IggyWH]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd call it a wash, at best.

[/ QUOTE ]

A wash to me means getting a BJ, so who blew who?

[gmrankin]

All of this bitching, and you all missed the million man march part 2.

''Katrina showed us the neglect of the government of the United States of America" Farrakhan told the crowd, calling for African-Americans, Native Americans, other minorities, and poor citizens to organize together. ''We charge America with criminal neglect."

Bush hates everybody. Farrakhan for PRESIDENT

[joecash]

I think if white guys stopped trying to talk black, these kind of things wouldn't happen.