Seeking HE Expert

[brianmarc]

I am a relatively new HE player who has read extensively on HE and who has played several hundred hours online in games from 2/4 through 30/60. Due to the boredom factor of full games, I have been playing only SH games (3-6 players). I have had moderate success, but have learned enough to see that there are many weak online players with substantial bankrolls in all game categories. I am looking for an expert player for one or both of the following:
(1) Coach me into becoming a better player.
(2) Double-teaming with me online on a basis whereby I provide the funding and the profits would be shared on some basis with you. I envision a serious financial commitment with a 5 figure bankroll. We would begin by developing profiles on the regular players at the various game levels (Games up to 50/100 are available). The site I play on permits anonymous viewing of all games and does not publish player stats as some of the larger sites do. This improves the value of any research we do.

You will need to convince me of your capabilities to play at the highest level in the fast-paced online world.
We would identify promising

I have the computer facilities that will allow us to work and play remotely, as well as to record live games for later analysis. So it does not matter where in the world you are located. High-speed Internet access and a Windows PC are all that are required.

My name is Brian; I am located in New York City and you can contact me in confidence at nydenizen@yahoo.com.

[ChuckRazor]

Ahh...poker as an exact science. Online. Where should I send the 5 figures? Good to see the out of work stock brokers are getting creative. I RAISE YOU 7 FIGURES......but I might be bluffing.

[brianmarc]

What's ur prob, chuck?

As a matter of fact, in many of the soft games I have found online the computer program I have written DOES make a large part of the game an exact science. And I'm using the profit to bankroll this new effort.

Don't get the stockbroker jibe. I'm actually an MS in statistics and computer science and run a successful small software development company. I see an opportunity for an edge here that obviously escapes you.

Brian

[ChuckRazor]

My apologies-I can get a bit surly after a long night of live poker. I don't play online...so what do I know.

[brianmarc]

Chuck:

Likewise, my apologies for ranting at you. I appreciate your taking the time to reply, and I apparently lost my sense of humor regarding the the comment about the stockbroker.

Hope you had a better day at the tables!

Cheers.

Brian

[astroglide]

double-teaming = collusion = cheating. if you get caught doing such a thing, you will have your money locked up.

[brianmarc]

Astro:

Please clarify what YOU understand as "double-teaming". The way I meant it, and have already explained in a reply to a previous message, is to have someone play alongisde me. This is the same as if you were sitting in my living romm while I was playing and we would discuss play as it unfolded. While I underatand that this is not done in brix & mortar casinos, it is certainly done online. None of the User Agreeements make any stipulation regarding the number of people who may beinvolved in the playing of a SINGLE hand.

My assumption is that you simply misunderstood this meaning of double-teaming and assumed we would be playing more than one accoutn while staying in touch outside the chat screen, and then fired off your reply.

Final question: Have you ever seen anyone actually advertise in public that he wanted to cheat?

Brian

[astroglide]

i believe most poker players would agree that anything more than 1 player per hand is unethical. how would you feel if you were playing a no-limit tourney and found out the guy that busted you on the bubble had phil hellmuth sitting behind him?

as i've seen much more alarming admissions online, i wasn't assuming you were planning a 3-man squeeze style collusion bit, but i couldn't rule it out. i apologize if i was in error, but please note the ethical consideration outlined in the above paragraph.

[Diplomat]

"how would you feel if you were playing a no-limit tourney and found out the guy that busted you on the bubble had phil hellmuth sitting behind him?"

I'd think something along the lines of, "You've got to be kidding me, I busted out to -that- guy? I give up."

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-Diplomat

[DaBartman]

I have read the replys so far, have you considered that you may run into games (especially at the levels you propose!) where the 'other players' are in actuality one or two guys with seven laptops, wireless connections, playing you and your associate like a finely tuned instrument? This crap happens out there, so be verrrry careful. I have the 5 figures and intend to keep it in the B&M tables where I have done just fine to date. The very real possibility of being cheated out of large sums really frightens me!

[brianmarc]

Astro:

Tx for the provocative comments.

If your hypothetical deals with an online game, I'd have no problem, unless tourney rules prohibited it. However, this hypo is far removed from the situation I am referring to: 1. You never know the true identity of ur oppts. In fact, many of them regularly switch screen names, so you are always playing against "new" players. 2. These are limit HE games, and not tourneys.

Next, how about the following?: I have written a couple of software programs to assiste me: One tells me whterh to Call, Raise or Fold dependig on my pocket cards, position and # of players. The other tracks pot size and my hand and computes pot odds. This I use to help decide what draws are EV+.

This gives me an edge that does not break any of the site rules - and from everything I understand, getting an that's what this games is all about.

Finally: I have no way of knowing if others are doing this, but I would be naive to think that they weren't. (And, as I ahve already said, I don;t care-if someone consistently beats me I have 20 more fish-filled games to try).

I think the bottom line is that online play is not your standard poker. The traditionalists are clearly having a tough time reconciling themselves to this, but gambling is not some higher-purpose activity-it's about getting the other guy's bankroll into your pocket. My approach brings the 21st century to this glorious tradition!

Brian

[brianmarc]

Point is well taken. The price of (financial) freedom is eternal vigilance.

[astroglide]

you're actually reading in cards from the imaging?

[brianmarc]

Nope-at least not yet. At this point I type in just my hand.