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Oblivious
10-15-2005, 10:31 AM
Hi everyone. I just finished up a break even week, so I went through the hands where I had some problems and decided to post this one for discussion. Villin is 39, 12, 2 after 40 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB
mdob
10-15-2005, 10:56 AM
Looks fine to me. His numbers are somewhat Laggy, but he doesn't have a ridiculous PFR%, so the three-bet probably means something. Let's say 99+, AJs+, AQo+. You're probably ahead after the flop, but there's a chance you're not-- might as well play it WA/WB. The turn check-raise smells like a bluff to me (or a monster). Call it and let him bet the river again. I think the only debatable part of the hand is the river: raise/fold? I suspect that's best, but I doubt I can fold to a 3-bet, so I'd probably just call like you did.
peterchi
10-15-2005, 11:27 AM
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The turn check-raise smells like a bluff to me (or a monster). Call it and let him bet the river again. I think the only debatable part of the hand is the river: raise/fold? I suspect that's best...

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This seems like an excellent argument for a call. Why would you want to raise if he's bluffing?
toss
10-15-2005, 11:30 AM
Raise the flop. Whether you fold, call, or 3-bet the turn depends on villain.
mdob
10-15-2005, 12:32 PM
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The turn check-raise smells like a bluff to me (or a monster). Call it and let him bet the river again. I think the only debatable part of the hand is the river: raise/fold? I suspect that's best...

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This seems like an excellent argument for a call. Why would you want to raise if he's bluffing?

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Because this guy is so loose, I suspect he'll call even with a bluff on the river (assuming that bluff is 99-QQ, not AQ).
BigBrother
10-15-2005, 04:46 PM
I raise this flop every time. Chances are if you do you avoid getting check-raised on the turn. You can then just call down.

If you raise the flop and he smooth calls and check-raises the turn you have a tough decision as the pot is big but there are plenty of hands a semi-LAG will 3-bet pf that beat you. But you can feel a LOT better about laying TPTK down here than if you had NOT shown strength on the flop.
private joker
10-15-2005, 05:10 PM
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I raise this flop every time. Chances are if you do you avoid getting check-raised on the turn.

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What? If you raise the flop, it's easier for them to checkraise the turn because they know you'll bet it. Villain used a screwplay here, and that's not nearly as common as the bet/call check-raise line.
silkyslim
10-15-2005, 05:25 PM
I would raise the flop
Walker
10-15-2005, 05:32 PM
Did you just call the flop so you could raise a blank on the turn?

I like just calling down the check raise. He could be semibluffing and he's a LAG so I'm happy to let him bluff the river.
Oblivious
10-15-2005, 10:51 PM
I smooth called the flop to preserve my opportunity to raise the turn. Villan had A /images/graemlins/spade.gif J /images/graemlins/spade.gif.