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10-14-2005, 02:47 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+2 (t785)
MP1 (t790)
MP2 (t775)
MP3 (t745)
CO (t675)
Button (t800)
SB (t785)
BB (t880)
UTG (t770)
Hero (t995)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to t50, 5 folds, Button calls t50, SB calls t40, BB calls t35.

Flop: (t197.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t100, SB folds, BB folds, Button raises all in t650 Hero calls t650.

Turn: (t947.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: (t947.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t947.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Button has 7c 8c (flush, nine high).
Outcome: Button wins t947.50. 

Was this the right way to play this hand? I think it is at the 11's but at what buy in (if any) should the all in move from the button scare me?

PS I had a hell of a time with the hand converter so if anything seems weird just assume the obvious

splashpot

10-14-2005, 02:49 PM

Raise more preflop. But yea, nothing you can do about this.

pooh74

10-14-2005, 02:49 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+2 (t785)
MP1 (t790)
MP2 (t775)
MP3 (t745)
CO (t675)
Button (t800)
SB (t785)
BB (t880)
UTG (t770)
Hero (t995)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to t50, 5 folds, Button calls t50, SB calls t40, BB calls t35.

Flop: (t197.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t100, SB folds, BB folds, Button raises all in t650 Hero calls t650.

Turn: (t947.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: (t947.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t947.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Button has 7c 8c (flush, nine high).
Outcome: Button wins t947.50. 

Was this the right way to play this hand? I think it is at the 11's but at what buy in (if any) should the all in move from the button scare me?

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I would call this all day at the 11s...I might raise a bit more PF, and I might overbet this flop. IOW I want the Ac to push me in.

10-14-2005, 02:53 PM

I agree with raising more (just a little) preflop from early position, but if i was later i am happy with my raise.

First thing i thought of was villain holding Ac making me a coinflip, but at this level Qc also seemed probable or even a pair of 9's.

bmxreed36

10-14-2005, 03:06 PM

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I agree with raising more (just a little) preflop from early position, but if i was later i am happy with my raise.

First thing i thought of was villain holding Ac making me a coinflip, but at this level Qc also seemed probable or even a pair of 9's.

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Even if you know he is holding the ace of clubs with some other card, don't think of it as a coinflip. You're 56% to win against that with plenty in the pot already. Worst case scenario is a set (you'll still win 1/3 of the time) or made flush (still winning 1/3 if he doesn't have the ace). You're getting 1.6 to 1 on your money and once you throw in hands like a pair of nines, pocket tens, queen-high flush draw, total bluff, etc, I think it's an easy call at the 11's.