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Indiana
10-14-2005, 11:50 AM
Personally, I think this is the sharpest forum on 2+2. I am interested in who you consider the best player in this forum. I guess I'd vote Strassa or Bonomo.

Indy

splashpot
10-14-2005, 11:51 AM
Stanzee

10-14-2005, 11:51 AM
stanzee -- and it's not even close!

tjh
10-14-2005, 11:53 AM
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Stanzee

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Indiana
10-14-2005, 11:53 AM
What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

tjh
10-14-2005, 11:55 AM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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Most of us are not even good enough to tie the laces on stanzee's shoes..

Indiana
10-14-2005, 11:56 AM
Wouldnt it be fun to create a poll of the 9 best players on this forum and have them play a tourney on stars? Hell I'd be willing to donate so they could freeroll.

This has prolly already been done,

Indy

pooh74
10-14-2005, 11:57 AM
Its STanzee...just ask him.

Indiana
10-14-2005, 11:58 AM
You know what would be really fun? 9 of us could each pick our favorite player and back him. So for example I'd pay the $ for strassa to play and 8 of you pick your boys and lets do this. Of course the winner would split the return with his backer.

Indy

Indiana
10-14-2005, 11:59 AM
Oh wait, strassa would have to promise me not to push with KJo 5 handed:)

Indy

inyaface
10-14-2005, 12:00 PM
I've seen some pretty scary tables at the 215's before. Obviously not the 9 best players but definatly 5 of the people I would consider to be the top 20.

Freudian
10-14-2005, 12:02 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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He is the best. He said so himself. Thats all the proof I need.

10-14-2005, 12:02 PM
I'll give an honest reply, you forgot Giga. And I think JJProdigy is pretty good too.

Freudian
10-14-2005, 12:03 PM
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I'll give an honest reply, you forgot Giga. And I think JJProdigy is pretty good too.

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Most of the high level posters here seemed to be impressed with lacky during the Vegas strip-a-thon.

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:10 PM
So what about this backing idea? Wouldn't this be a fun gamble? Pick the guy u think is best and lets go to war.

Indy

Freudian
10-14-2005, 12:15 PM
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So what about this backing idea? Wouldn't this be a fun gamble? Pick the guy u think is best and lets go to war.

Indy

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You wouldn't find out who is the best unless you played a lot of games.

But it would be interesting to see a table full of very good players going at it.

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:16 PM
I don't know all the players here but I'd do it just for the gamble, and to see some good poker.

Indy

nyc999
10-14-2005, 12:17 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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He is the best. He said so himself. Thats all the proof I need.

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I believe this is what he said...

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I think i am the "special one"

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Rduke55
10-14-2005, 12:18 PM
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Stanzee

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Damn it, about a dozen people beat me to this.
His K9 plan was completely brilliant and I'm hoping to tie his laces someday.

I'd love to railbird him vs. Megabet.

Freudian
10-14-2005, 12:20 PM
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I believe this is what he said...

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I think i am the "special one"

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Perhaps he meant he go to school in the 'special' bus.

tjh
10-14-2005, 12:22 PM
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Wouldnt it be fun to create a poll of the 9 best players on this forum and have them play a tourney on stars? Hell I'd be willing to donate so they could freeroll.


Indy

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"experts" turn into maniacs when they play each other..
Put the experts at the same table and the game takes on a surreal quality that looks a lot like insanity. Perhaps they are playing at a "higher level" ...
who knows..

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tjh

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:23 PM
Yah but this would be for the title. Let's do it.
I could even order a bracelet or something. I have no life.
Indy

lem45216
10-14-2005, 12:23 PM
Could I commentate in my best Mike Sexton voice please?
I'd need a Vince Van Patton.

"Well Vince he's picked up a monster"

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:25 PM
Sure. You could say "Here comes the flop, Stanzee just picked up an inside str8 draw."

Indy

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:27 PM
We really need to do this. Perhaps a double shootout would allow the top 81 players to compete for a bracelet. It would be the 2+2 SNG championship. Such fun. We could set it up so that the winner takes home 10K. That would be no big buy-in.

Indy

splashpot
10-14-2005, 12:28 PM
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We really need to do this. Perhaps a double shootout would allow the top 81 players to compete for a bracelet. It would be the 2+2 SNG championship. Such fun. We could set it up so that the winner takes home 10K. That would be no big buy-in.

Indy

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10k prize without a big buyin?!?!? Tell me that was a typo.

Indiana
10-14-2005, 12:29 PM
Not a typo. Did you see where i said "Double Shootout?"

Indy

splashpot
10-14-2005, 12:31 PM
81 players to come up with 10K? That's still about $125 buyin for a winner take all against the best at 2+2. I doubt you'll find many players to take this deal.

The Yugoslavian
10-14-2005, 12:31 PM
This is fairly silly.

I'll let others elaborate.

Yugoslav

johnnybeef
10-14-2005, 12:39 PM
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This is fairly silly.

I'll let others elaborate.

Yugoslav

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***Moderator has been notified***

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 12:45 PM
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Stanzee

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Damn it, about a dozen people beat me to this.
His K9 plan was completely brilliant and I'm hoping to tie his laces someday.

I'd love to railbird him vs. Megabet.

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23rd October...don't miss it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Oh, and I love the sarcasm in these replies lol....stanzee the best player? lmao

valenzuela
10-14-2005, 12:49 PM
first we need to define poker.

Cactus Jack
10-14-2005, 12:57 PM
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Stanzee

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If you didn't see THAT one coming, quit playing poker. You have NO ability to read your opponents. none, zip, nada.

CJ

Bluff Daddy
10-14-2005, 12:58 PM
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first we need to define poker.

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pok·er n. - One that pokes, especially a metal rod used to stir a fire.

junkmail3
10-14-2005, 12:58 PM
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first we need to define poker.

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Poker:

1. Rigged.

fnord_too
10-14-2005, 12:58 PM
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Yah but this would be for the title. Let's do it.
I could even order a bracelet or something. I have no life.
Indy

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You are aware of the tournies Irie has set up, no? There was even a site for making side bets.

Edit - Yes it was HU and not full table, but still...

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 01:01 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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I had a post with all his best quotes. It was hilarious, but I can't find it now!

pooh74
10-14-2005, 01:12 PM
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So what about this backing idea? Wouldn't this be a fun gamble? Pick the guy u think is best and lets go to war.

Indy

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Why would that be any fun? Terrible idea...Anyone who would need or want backing for 1 SNG, IMO, is by default not a good player. I would never take backing and I suck.

I am not even close to the best around here, but who cares about idolizing ppl here? Its raining, I'm in a bad mood, but sorry, this thread stinks.

10-14-2005, 01:25 PM
He's caught lightning in a bottle, Vince.

SuitedSixes
10-14-2005, 01:36 PM
Lacy (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3668895&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1)

Slim Pickens
10-14-2005, 01:44 PM
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Could I commentate in my best Mike Sexton voice please?
I'd need a Vince Van Patton.

"Well Vince he's picked up a monster"

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"That's right Mike. He's looking at two lovely ladies... the Gabor sisters, the Hilton sisters, pocket Esfandiaris..."

bearly
10-14-2005, 01:47 PM
speaking only of sng's, i would say irieguy and gigabet...................b

Manque
10-14-2005, 01:52 PM
Stanzee is Brilliant in my opinion.

The Don
10-14-2005, 01:54 PM
1) There is no possible way to know this.
2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

Cactus Jack
10-14-2005, 01:57 PM
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1) There is no possible way to know this.
2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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In all seriousness, I'd be very interested to know why you say this about this forum. (Discounting threads like this, of course.) If there is a better one, I doubt you'd say, but you could PM me an invitation and I'd be delighted to join. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ

The Don
10-14-2005, 02:02 PM
I don't mean all of 2+2, just the single table tournament forum. Mid-high NL or limit are undoubtedly "sharper" forums (I haven't ventured in PLO or Stud forums so I really wouldn't know).

stupidsucker
10-14-2005, 02:11 PM
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1) There is no possible way to know this.
2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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I havent read enough of the other forums to know.

I would gather the MTT forum must have a lot of bright individuals, but if you want true genius hit up the zoo.

pooh74
10-14-2005, 02:12 PM
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2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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Mainly bc of threads like these.

Indiana
10-14-2005, 02:13 PM
$125 is a lot of money? Jeez guys, I really thought that this would be fun. You know, a bracelet event. I know that it doesn't "prove" anything but I would really enjoy picking a guy to back and rooting for him to take it down. Maybe I'm sick and need to stop gambling.

Indy

stupidsucker
10-14-2005, 02:14 PM
I think that 2 posters with helmet avatars shouldnt be allowed to post in the same thread,,,

kyro
10-14-2005, 02:22 PM
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I don't mean all of 2+2, just the single table tournament forum. Mid-high NL or limit are undoubtedly "sharper" forums (I haven't ventured in PLO or Stud forums so I really wouldn't know).

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Um. Take a bunch of Mid-high NL/limit players and make them play SNGs and discuss strategy and take us and have us play Mid-high NL/limit and discuss strategy and I can guarantee you the majority of us will lose our asses and the other forum will succeed (although at a lower rate than they used to)

stanzee
10-14-2005, 03:24 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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I had a post with all his best quotes. It was hilarious, but I can't find it now!

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The reason you can't find it is because it was in a ridiculous thread that a moderator started. The moderator in question was then forced, rather embarrasingly for him /images/graemlins/grin.gif, to delete the entire thread after it got out of control, and i managed to make half the posters and moderator included look rather stupid. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

In answer to the question of am i the best poker player in this forum? Well, i be completely honest and admit yes, there is a strong possibility i am. I believe i'm potentially the best player in the world never mind this forum, and only inexperience is holding me back from the mantle. As i've always said, time will tell, and you'll all find out how good Stanzee really is.

Finally, in answer to whether i would beat the 9 best players in a SnG format? This i can't answer, as even i know anything can and will happen in a one off competition. If i was a bookmaker though then i would certainly make Stanzee favourite.

pergesu
10-14-2005, 03:36 PM
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I don't mean all of 2+2, just the single table tournament forum. Mid-high NL or limit are undoubtedly "sharper" forums (I haven't ventured in PLO or Stud forums so I really wouldn't know).

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Um. Take a bunch of Mid-high NL/limit players and make them play SNGs and discuss strategy and take us and have us play Mid-high NL/limit and discuss strategy and I can guarantee you the majority of us will lose our asses and the other forum will succeed (although at a lower rate than they used to)

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That's what he's saying. MHPLNL is way better than us.

adanthar
10-14-2005, 03:41 PM
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That's what he's saying. MHPLNL is way better than us.

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By a factor of, like, a hundred, and they're not even what they used to be.

I'm just now getting to the point where I make the same decisions for the same reasons on a flop or a turn as an average MHNL poster, and that's, like, two years of studying postflop play later.

10-14-2005, 03:49 PM
If you want real genuis read Jose Canseco's book Juiced.

nyc999
10-14-2005, 04:01 PM
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That's what he's saying. MHPLNL is way better than us.

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By a factor of, like, a hundred, and they're not even what they used to be.

I'm just now getting to the point where I make the same decisions for the same reasons on a flop or a turn as an average MHNL poster, and that's, like, two years of studying postflop play later.

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I gave their forum a visit, this was the first posting I opened:

MHLPNL Thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3650638&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1&vc=1)

Nothing like facing turn raises that are multiples of my bankroll.

beeyjay
10-14-2005, 04:09 PM
tree of wisdom or forum bot

10-14-2005, 04:12 PM
10111101110001111

citanul
10-14-2005, 04:13 PM
Well it appears that no one who isn't stanzee has stepped up to this one, so I guess I'll just have to answer the question for you.

I am.

citanul

runner4life7
10-14-2005, 04:13 PM
i just want to throw curtains name out there, and has zeejustin not been mentioned? If we are just talking STTF then these two names are a must.

jwvdcw
10-14-2005, 04:19 PM
Just curious....what are the usernames of the good 2+2ers that play at party? I play as "AssaniFisher" and can usually be found playing in the big money STTs.

Cactus Jack
10-14-2005, 04:58 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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**a lot of boring crap deleted**


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And now, what could have been a slightly interesting thread will deteriorate into competely ridiculous garbage.

Wasn't he banned?

CJ

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 05:00 PM
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What about stanzee? Credentials?

Indy

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**a lot of boring crap deleted**


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And now, what could have been a slightly interesting thread will deteriorate into competely ridiculous garbage.

Wasn't he banned?

CJ

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He's too funny to be banned. Like the class clown. Utterly delusional.

Oluwafemi
10-14-2005, 05:01 PM
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1) There is no possible way to know this.
2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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In all seriousness, I'd be very interested to know why you say this about this forum. (Discounting threads like this, of course.) If there is a better one, I doubt you'd say, but you could PM me an invitation and I'd be delighted to join. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ

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there is no way this forum trumps Mid-, High-Stakes PL & NL or Limit. i'm strictly a NL SNG specialist but i mostly read alot of their threads because of postflop reasons. it's no doubt in my mind that if alot of their players started focusing their efforts on NL SNGs [not that some already haven't], alot of players in this forum who are considered the best would be lower tier to mid tier rated.

ilya
10-14-2005, 05:01 PM
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Stanzee

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Damn it, about a dozen people beat me to this.
His K9 plan was completely brilliant and I'm hoping to tie his laces someday.

I'd love to railbird him vs. Megabet.

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I'm not entirely sure, but I think I would take stanzee over Megabet.

ilya
10-14-2005, 05:03 PM
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2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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I agree, there are at least 2 forums on 2p2 that are stronger than this one.

freemoney
10-14-2005, 05:57 PM
in all honesty i am the best player at the 100s, i can speak only of what i know.

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 06:00 PM
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Stanzee

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Damn it, about a dozen people beat me to this.
His K9 plan was completely brilliant and I'm hoping to tie his laces someday.

I'd love to railbird him vs. Megabet.

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I'm not entirely sure, but I think I would take stanzee over Megabet.

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wtf are you talking about? /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 06:03 PM
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in all honesty i am the best player at the 100s, i can speak only of what i know.

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I think the trick is to get SOMEONE ELSE to vote for you! Otherwise all deluded souls will vote for themselves.

johnnybeef
10-14-2005, 06:21 PM
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Well it appears that no one who isn't stanzee has stepped up to this one, so I guess I'll just have to answer the question for you.

I am.

citanul

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thats only because i am currently working on being more realistic about my game. otherwise i would have said it long ago.

lacky
10-14-2005, 06:23 PM
<<<<<<<< nuf said

citanul= girlyman who didn't show up cause we'd make him cry./images/graemlins/grin.gif


Steve

10-14-2005, 06:28 PM
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Personally, I think this is the sharpest forum on 2+2.

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No offense intended here to the damn fine people of this forum, but I really don't think so

Jman28
10-14-2005, 06:31 PM
A better question is: How many people think they are the best player in this forum?

I can think of 4 off the top of my head, maybe 5.

freemoney
10-14-2005, 06:48 PM
you type like you are the damn forum cheerleader, and i have the best results at the 100s, therefore i am the best

freemoney
10-14-2005, 06:53 PM
i honestly do.

Jman28
10-14-2005, 06:55 PM
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you type like you are the damn forum cheerleader, and i have the best results at the 100s, therefore i am the best

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What are your results at the 100s? over how many? 8 tabling?

deathpotato
10-14-2005, 06:57 PM
Heheh, I was sitting to your right a lot earlier today. Guess who /images/graemlins/grin.gif

the shadow
10-14-2005, 07:01 PM
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there are at least 2 forums on 2p2 that are stronger than this one

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The zoo and OOT?

freemoney
10-14-2005, 07:18 PM
i have about 2000 tracked and over 25%+ ROI

Jman28
10-14-2005, 07:27 PM
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i have about 2000 tracked and over 25%+ ROI

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Why not take your over $50k and play the 200s?

freemoney
10-14-2005, 07:34 PM
i take money out n [censored] aint broke im not fixing it.

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 07:42 PM
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i honestly do.

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Trust me, you are not. Not by a long way.

Seth Money
10-14-2005, 07:51 PM
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i have about 2000 tracked and over 25%+ ROI

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Ahhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bullchit choooooooooo

freemoney
10-14-2005, 08:11 PM
lol yes it makes me feel better if someone i will never meet and dont care about thinks my roi is a certain number.

freemoney
10-14-2005, 08:13 PM
at my level over a pretty significant span i dont think anyone is all that comparable, so if you want to equate best with greatest ability to make money at a certain level then yes i am pretty sure i am best.

MegaBet
10-14-2005, 08:16 PM
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at my level over a pretty significant span i dont think anyone is all that comparable, so if you want to equate best with greatest ability to make money at a certain level then yes i am pretty sure i am best.

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So you'll be playing in the NA v Europe challenge? No I didn't think so. You wouldn't want to embarrass yourself in front of us.

Cactus Jack
10-14-2005, 08:31 PM
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Personally, I think this is the sharpest forum on 2+2.

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No offense intended here to the damn fine people of this forum, but I really don't think so

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I was thinking that this is the best forum on the Net for SNG people. As I'm not playing anything else at the moment, I never thought of other forums on 2+2.

If there is a better STT forum, somebody send me a PM.

CJ

citanul
10-15-2005, 01:34 AM
haha, citanul didn't show up for a variety of reasons, including he was MOVING ON THE DAY OF THE HUC. other reasons included NOT BEING IN HE COUNTRY DURING REGISTRATION. yeah, i know, lame excuses. citanul doesn't think he should register for event #2 as he can't be sure he'll be able to make it =(. but he's thinking about it anyway.

citanul also doesn't actually think he's the best either sng player or "poker" player who posts routinely on this forum.

as for other things: freemoney does play quite well, though i've never finished below him in a sng i've played with him, and for some reason i stink at the 100s. but whatever. i don't really feel like divulging who i think is either the best sng player, the best sng mind, or the best poker player who posts here. i will however concur that this is not the strongest of the forums here in terms of either their raw "poker" knowledge, nor their ability to analyze their own game. on the side of this forum is the fact that we have a strong set of tools that can be used in order to come up with things approaching the "right" answer for many, many of the questions to be asked, which is much harder and more situational in the games discussed in other of the forums.

that's all for now,

citanul

SCfuji
10-15-2005, 01:47 AM
i cant wait for the results of the next 10 STTFHUCs. as long as the core of the players stays consistent we might be able to see who the best is!

lacky
10-15-2005, 01:51 AM
that would take hundreds, unfortunately

gildwulf
10-15-2005, 05:38 AM
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1) There is no possible way to know this.
2) There is no way that this is the sharpest forum.

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In all seriousness, I'd be very interested to know why you say this about this forum. (Discounting threads like this, of course.) If there is a better one, I doubt you'd say, but you could PM me an invitation and I'd be delighted to join. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

CJ

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there is no way this forum trumps Mid-, High-Stakes PL & NL or Limit. i'm strictly a NL SNG specialist but i mostly read alot of their threads because of postflop reasons. it's no doubt in my mind that if alot of their players started focusing their efforts on NL SNGs [not that some already haven't], alot of players in this forum who are considered the best would be lower tier to mid tier rated.

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Mid-high has the best signal to noise ratio....HUSH is probably the best strategy forum on 2+2.

And who the [censored] is Stanzee??? I have to start reading this forum more often.

Jman28
10-15-2005, 06:12 AM
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i have about 2000 tracked and over 25%+ ROI

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Ahhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bullchit choooooooooo

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It's possible over 2k, but not sustainable 4+ tabling.

r2p
10-15-2005, 06:27 AM
I for one expect to fully embarrass my self on the 23rd (realjobu).

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at my level over a pretty significant span i dont think anyone is all that comparable, so if you want to equate best with greatest ability to make money at a certain level then yes i am pretty sure i am best.

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So you'll be playing in the NA v Europe challenge? No I didn't think so. You wouldn't want to embarrass yourself in front of us.

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Jman28
10-15-2005, 06:44 AM
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i have about 2000 tracked and over 25%+ ROI

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Ahhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bullchit choooooooooo

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It's possible over 2k, but not sustainable 4+ tabling.

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(for almost anyone)

Manque
10-15-2005, 04:24 PM
But do they have the potentially best poker player in the world posting on their forums?

I am of course talking about the imcomparable stanzee.