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Sooga
10-13-2005, 09:46 PM
Who's the best player in baseball history to have not played in the all-star game? Obviously, players who were active during an era when there was no all-star game in existence do not count.

I don't know enough about older players to make any guesses, but the only names that pop into my head now are Eric Chavez (who is only 27 and I'm sure will be an all-star eventually), and Tim Salmon, who I only know never was an all-star because I follow the Angels. Any other picks?
SossMan
10-13-2005, 09:49 PM
chavez has never been an all star?? wow.
Sooga
10-13-2005, 09:53 PM
yea, most people when they find that out are shocked.... but he's a perennial slow starter (don't you remember how bad he was early this season?), and when you combine that with the fact that he was up against Glaus and A-Rod so far in his career, it's hard to get consideration.
Josh W
10-14-2005, 12:12 AM
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chavez has never been an all star?? wow.

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As sooga touched on...he's never really been much of a snub either because he's so horrible in the springtime. He's often the best 3b in the 2nd half of the season though.

Josh
Josh W
10-14-2005, 12:12 AM
Pete Incaviglia and Felix Hernandez.
Jack of Arcades
10-14-2005, 12:27 AM
Kirk Gibson comes to mind, too.
Jim Kuhn
10-14-2005, 12:44 AM
I take it you mean by career? If by season it would take a whole another meaning. This is an interesting subject. I am not sure I may search other forums and come up with an interesting answer.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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Sooga
10-14-2005, 12:51 AM
Oh yea, definitely career. Players with only one good season and never making an all-star team are a dime a dozen.
Oski
10-14-2005, 12:54 AM
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Kirk Gibson comes to mind, too.

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Preface: I am not sure about this ... its a long time ago.

Yes, Gibson never played in an All Star game. However, in 1988, I think he either was voted in, or there was talk about him being a replacement for an injured player.

Anyway, he made it clear that he was not going to go because he had plans to go home to Michigan.
Dominic
10-14-2005, 01:08 AM
Tim Salmon's a great pick.
10-14-2005, 01:18 AM
Easily Kirk Gibson.
whalekock
10-14-2005, 01:33 AM
Eric Karros and Tim Salmon
Jack of Arcades
10-14-2005, 02:19 AM
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Kirk Gibson comes to mind, too.

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Preface: I am not sure about this ... its a long time ago.

Yes, Gibson never played in an All Star game. However, in 1988, I think he either was voted in, or there was talk about him being a replacement for an injured player.

Anyway, he made it clear that he was not going to go because he had plans to go home to Michigan.

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Yes, you are correct.
Jack of Arcades
10-14-2005, 02:20 AM
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Eric Karros and Tim Salmon

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Tim Salmon was much better than Eric.
TheRover
10-14-2005, 02:54 AM
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Tim Salmon's a great pick.

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Anyone know if my assloads of Tim Salmon rookie cards are worth a damn?
Clarkmeister
10-14-2005, 11:53 AM
This is way too much effort.
10-14-2005, 12:18 PM
Hands down...

MIKE LAGA
Patrick del Poker Grande
10-14-2005, 12:35 PM
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Sooga
10-14-2005, 01:59 PM
Haha, I figured you might want to put too much effort into it. But just off the top of your head I'm sure you could come up with a couple. You don't need a Bill Jamesian analysis of all non all-star players in history in order to come up with a few names.
mblax10
10-14-2005, 07:57 PM
I was disapointed to see only Salmon, Karros & Gibson mentioned, although all good choices.

A couple other names to throw out:
Tim Wakefield, JD Drew, Todd Zeile, Kirk Rueter, Shannon Stewart, Placido Polanco, Mike Timlin, Pedro Astacio
10-15-2005, 12:16 AM
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Todd Zeile

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This player was not good.