New Game at Wynn... $10/20 mix!!

I don't know when this game started, I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks. I went to Wynn last night and saw they had a $10/20 mix game with Hold'em, Omaha8, Stud8, 2-7 Triple Draw and I think Razz.

Bellagio has a $40/80 mix game that is well liked and runs almost every day. I think this $10/20 game would be great, the limit will draw more people to it than the $40 game IMO.

I like to play all poker games and this is a chance to do it without playing higher limits. If anyone is intrested check it out I'd like to see this game run everyday or close to it.

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Would be very interested in hearing about this as well.

How would throwing 2-7 into the mix work out? That means up to 4 people sitting out? Unless you are talking about single draw?

I guess maybe playing this with 8 at a table would be okay. Hold'em and O8b would be a little short, especially when people were walking.

[goofball]

It's been running every day, if you're there join me in my attempts to get them to stop playing razz. As far as I can tell razz was only designed to annoy me.

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Is it single or triple draw 2-7?

How many at the table? Long wait list usually?

I'll be down tonight. I think razz is OK as long as they play sutd8 and not stud hi/lo with not qual like they do at bellagio. I don't think I could handle playing 2 games where I had to muck Kings and Queens.

triple draw sorry i'll edit my post. I don't know I saw it 6 handed at 3am.

[goofball]

Razz makes me feel stabby

[Luv2DriveTT]

If this game is still running on November 4'th, I just might take a last minute flight out to Vegas.

Goofball - Razz is a pure game, just think about the Theory of Poker every time you play. Its incredibly easy, even easier than Triple Draw IMHO. Once you learn to master it (and its very easy to master compared to Hold'em) you will dominate these rounds. I think Bugstud is good at Razz, hang with him for a bit. He loves mixed games.

PS: Gooooo Wynn! Excellent method to separate your room from the pack, and develop a mid limit player base that will grow in limits along with the room. If you can't beat the competition, create a demand where one did not previously exist.

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[bugstud]

more petinent is abolishing holdem and stud high from the rotation, and omaha/8 if I really had my way

[Xelent]

Goofball, is your name George?

[goofball]

Yeah, part of the problem may be that I've never read any literature or played it ever. I don't even know of any literature that exists. In general still feel pretty uncomfortable with the stud games since I have so much less experience with that format. Position is different, there are no blidns, it's weird man! If I had it my way we would only play the button games, but gotta be ableto compromise or the games would never go.

Bugstud - we can't eliminate holdem because if we did I would feel like a goober 100% of the time instead of the current 85% or whatever.

Dan (Theman) my name is Patrick

[bugstud]

your edge should be much higher in any other non-holdem game. I personally stole the blinds 4 hands in a row in holdem, but would get sick sick action on other games.

[goofball]

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your edge should be much higher in any other non-holdem game. I personally stole the blinds 4 hands in a row in holdem, but would get sick sick action on other games.

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Yeah, the holdem is much tighter I'm sure because most of the players are most used to holdem. Last time I played in that game I had the beautiful experience of raising and winning uncontested 3 pots in a row, then making the fourth opening raise with AA. I always thought the triple draw section was beautifully soft(raise then draw 3, or coldcall raise then draw 3 etc). Maybe the others are too but I'm just too much of afish at those to notice.

[lighterjobs]

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I think razz is OK as long as they play sutd8 and not stud hi/lo with not qual like they do at bellagio.

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it's called hi/lo regular. i don't understand why people like playing this game. it's so frustrating. it makes razz looks like hot sex.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Yeah, part of the problem may be that I've never read any literature or played it ever.

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Triple Draw - Other Poker & Super System II (remember, Daniel doesn't consider pot size at all, but you should)

Razz - Try to master Triple Draw 2-7 first, then read Sklansky on Poker. Your eyes will open up like never before. Also TOP of course.

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[bobbyi]

That's awesome. I definitely would play more at the casinos in my area if they spread a game like that.

[whiskeytown]

Only reason people play Razz is because they all think they can win a game where the worst hand wins /images/graemlins/grin.gif -

And then most of the reason people hate the game is because while you can start out with great pockets in a Stud game and have them hold up without improvement, you are ALWAYS on the draw in a Razz game, and so are your opponents - the goal is to suckout better then your opponent - so that can set people off...

but I started playing it after FT Poker offered it - nice diversion.

RB

[bugstud]

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I think razz is OK as long as they play sutd8 and not stud hi/lo with not qual like they do at bellagio.

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it's called hi/lo regular. i don't understand why people like playing this game. it's so frustrating. it makes razz looks like hot sex.

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..it's possibly the best game in existence as far as skilled player edge is concerned.

[IronDragon1]

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I think razz is OK as long as they play sutd8 and not stud hi/lo with not qual like they do at bellagio.

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it's called hi/lo regular. i don't understand why people like playing this game. it's so frustrating. it makes razz looks like hot sex.

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..it's possibly the best game in existence as far as skilled player edge is concerned.

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As long as it's not 5 card hi/lo declare...

[cnfuzzd]

holy [censored]. my trip to vegas will be so much more exciting if this game is still running....

peace

john nickle

[bugstud]

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I think razz is OK as long as they play sutd8 and not stud hi/lo with not qual like they do at bellagio.

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it's called hi/lo regular. i don't understand why people like playing this game. it's so frustrating. it makes razz looks like hot sex.

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..it's possibly the best game in existence as far as skilled player edge is concerned.

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As long as it's not 5 card hi/lo declare...

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if wynn will spread it, I'll crush you all

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Only reason people play Razz is because they all think they can win a game where the worst hand wins /images/graemlins/grin.gif -

And then most of the reason people hate the game is because while you can start out with great pockets in a Stud game and have them hold up without improvement, you are ALWAYS on the draw in a Razz game, and so are your opponents - the goal is to suckout better then your opponent - so that can set people off...

but I started playing it after FT Poker offered it - nice diversion.

RB

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Sounds like someone has been watching too much WSOP coverage /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I really like draw games, so its not foreign to me at all. Anyone who plays TD (and its fast rising among experienced Hold'em only players) can easily move to Razz with little frustration.

PS: I kill the Full Tilt Razz games when I play there... they are super soft!

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[whiskeytown]

actually, Razz is probably my 2nd fav. game after Holdem - and my 2nd best played - but most of my info has come from Doyle's few pages on it in the original SS and just a lot of reading of our newsgroups.

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I consider my placement in a H.O.R.S.E. tourney one of my greatest poker accomplishments, even though it was only 160 players and I only made the 2nd table - hate being a one trick pony.

RB

[FeliciaLee]

I might come up this weekend and take a peek if it's running.

I have always thought Razz was a great game for women. Women can handle the vicious beats better than men. A woman can start out with three to a wheel, catch a fourth wheel card, brick all the way to the river, watch some yahoo turn over a queen high starting hand, and still play well. I don't see many men who can play well after those types of hands. And that is where I make money. AFTER the men start tilting.

Luckily for me, women haven't caught on to this, and I am usually the only woman ever playing Razz.

As far as Stud 8 no qualifier, it is not a frustrating game at all. Don't go high, period. It is a huge fish fry if you can remember that. A true no-brainer.

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If anyone that plays in this game can specify some of the details, it would be appreciated.

How many players at table? Is it 8 because of 2-7 TD? Everyone plays all the games, but then 2 sit out when 2-7 TD comes around?

How often does the game change? Is it timed or is it every round?

thx

[Xelent]

It depends on the floor when the game gets going actually. Sometimes it is a rake game and sometimes it is a time game. We usually switch games every 8 hands and have 8 people max at the table. The two people UTG and UTG+1 sit out during 2-7.