who is cantseeu on UB?

[KaneKungFu123]

is this mahatma? i need to know because i dont know if he is some guy on monkey tilt, or just mahatma.

sorry for the dickhead question, but its important right now.

[bugstud]

sweating the game, it kinda looks like a pralhad monkey tilt session

edit - nice working stacking him twice

[savman]

i dont know if it is, but this guy is maniacal!!!!! BTW NH AQ v A5

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
sweating the game, it kinda looks like a pralhad monkey tilt session

[/ QUOTE ]

i cant wait to have my name posted on some monster pots. hopefully im not on the shitty end of it!

[savman]

[ QUOTE ]
i dont know if it is, but this guy is maniacal!!!!! BTW NH AQ v A5

[/ QUOTE ]

ok this is beyond maniacal
[/endrant]

edit: apparently there is a game forming around this guy; who, after further review, could very well be SR. also, i think he may be drunk. he is adverserial, making numerous typos, and calling KKF fishy..lmao.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i dont know if it is, but this guy is maniacal!!!!! BTW NH AQ v A5

[/ QUOTE ]

ok this is beyond maniacal
[/endrant]

[/ QUOTE ]

just a weeeeeeeeee bit

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i dont know if it is, but this guy is maniacal!!!!! BTW NH AQ v A5

[/ QUOTE ]

ok this is beyond maniacal
[/endrant]

[/ QUOTE ]

just a weeeeeeeeee bit

[/ QUOTE ]

i limp reraised him with KK, and it came A high before. Otherwise, everything has fallen into place.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i dont know if it is, but this guy is maniacal!!!!! BTW NH AQ v A5

[/ QUOTE ]

ok this is beyond maniacal
[/endrant]

[/ QUOTE ]

just a weeeeeeeeee bit

[/ QUOTE ]

i limp reraised him with KK, and it came A high before. Otherwise, everything has fallen into place.

[/ QUOTE ]

you're certainly having fun trying to get a second game going, that's for sure.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

Nice JJ on the TTJ board vs GP Kane!

LDT

[KaneKungFu123]

/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheWorstPlayer]

Another nice hand (AA v JT). Congrats.

[punter11235]

Nice to see regular 2+2'er sitting on 8xbuying stack (and growing...). Nice job /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
:)

[/ QUOTE ]

jebus, stake the whole forum? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[savman]

[ QUOTE ]
Another nice hand (AA v JT). Congrats.

[/ QUOTE ]

that was a sweet hand....pwning this guy!!!!

[Yeti]

This guy is awful. It's not SR.

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
This guy is awful. It's not SR.

[/ QUOTE ]

playing 3 handed is so much easier then heads up with him.

[punter11235]

Maybe its not Mahatma... he doesnt give up so easy

Nice stack!! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
This guy is awful. It's not SR.

[/ QUOTE ]

who else can afford to blow this much and perpetually reload is beyond me

[savman]

he defenitely has an infatuation with KKF. wont play when others sit. all KKF did was ask if he as SR. strange.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

you punk bitch

rofl @ this guy

LDT

[savman]

yea that is total crap, no way i adjust my range b/c he threatens to leave....

[Lady Dont Tekno]

LOLOLOL

LDT

Stacked him again! Nh!

[punter11235]

Lolol, Kane, Nice playing with AA on KJx board, could you pls explain your thought process ?

Congrats !

[Yeti]

[ QUOTE ]
Lolol, Kane, Nice playing with AA on KJx board, could you pls explain your thought process ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Um, opponent is very bad. Opponent will call with top pair and pair+straight draws. Kane has good hand. Kane pushy pushy!@

[savman]

this guy is playing on a hacked account. there is no other explanation. lol.

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
Lolol, Kane, Nice playing with AA on KJx board, could you pls explain your thought process ?

Congrats !

[/ QUOTE ]

hes calling pot size bets on river with a high

[boose_bagina]

you are making a man homeless

[Lady Dont Tekno]

In the past 15 minutes I've seen Kane win a freaking reasonably sized house.

LDT

[savman]

[ QUOTE ]
you are making a man homeless

[/ QUOTE ]

he is making himself homeless. [insert ceroz "destroy him and his family" here]

[TheWorstPlayer]

Yeah that happens when you runner runner flushes to beat flopped nut straights. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nothing's funner than runner runner!

For those who didn't see it:

cantseeu has 11k, KKF covers

Preflop: cant raises to 300, KKF re-raises to 1.2k, cant calls

Flop: K/images/graemlins/spade.gifJ/images/graemlins/club.gif8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

KKF pushes, cantseeu calls.

KKF: AA
cant: K9o

Turn and river brick

KKF = the new mahatma?!?

http://www.uncut.at/filme/zoolander/b04.jpg

He's so hot right now

[SpaceAce]

My girlfriend said maybe cantseeu is about to kill himself and is unloading his life's savings.

Frankly, it doesn't sound that far-fetched after watching the game for a while.

SpaceAce

[punter11235]

One is for sure.. It wont be easy for him to come back to grinding 2000NL now...

[KaneKungFu123]

take the money and run?

[KaneKungFu123]

he slowplayed that set of 7's on turn, and is dangerous now big stacked. hmmm... i dont wanna be the dildo who gives it back.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
take the money and run?

[/ QUOTE ]

his play seems a lot more rational, at least from the sidelines.

[punter11235]

I would advice taking these 80k, calming down and reconsider how high you want to play...

But again... I dont play that high (lol)

[KaneKungFu123]

i actually just got to bluff him!!!

[savman]

maybe he plans to use his image with 250bb+ stacks....defenitely dangerous to play with those stacks against this guy.

[Jason Strasser]

You've been running fairly well and he doesn't seem to be playing terrible HU to me at least, esp w 200bb. I think at this point you can stop showing your hands when you fold.

But I say you should stay because if you can handle p_if_f you can handle him. :P

-Jason

[TheWorstPlayer]

He's still insanely aggro preflop but postflop he has tightened up a lot and doesn't seem to be getting a lot in without the goods. If I were you, I wouldn't play him heads up any more. But if I were you, I wouldn't have sat in these games in the first place. Ha.

Dude, you just open folded J/images/graemlins/spade.gif8/images/graemlins/spade.gif on the button and showed? Do you usually fold that?

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
I would advice taking these 80k, calming down and reconsider how high you want to play...

But again... I dont play that high (lol)

[/ QUOTE ]

did he just checkcall top pair?

i cant walk away.

[Yeti]

[ QUOTE ]
Dude, you just open folded J/images/graemlins/spade.gif8/images/graemlins/spade.gif on the button and showed? Do you usually fold that?

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe he thought he was out of position.

[KaneKungFu123]

him slowing down is what i want!

[TheWorstPlayer]

[ QUOTE ]
him slowing down is what i want!

[/ QUOTE ]
Why? Him being insane is how you fleeced him. Him slowing down means he's playing more rationally i.e. better.

[aexchange]

post some more hands please.

[punter11235]

Ok.. my advice was retarted

[TheWorstPlayer]

You freaking luckbox. Q8 v Q4.

Kane, you've died and went to heaven! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
him slowing down is what i want!

[/ QUOTE ]
Why? Him being insane is how you fleeced him. Him slowing down means he's playing more rationally i.e. better.

[/ QUOTE ]

when hes crazy it makes it posible for him to get paid off by me. he slows down means that i can still milk him, but not worry about him pushing me too hard.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
You freaking luckbox. Q8 v Q4.

[/ QUOTE ]

antseeu is at seat 5 with $18041.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 6 with $31381.50.
The button is at seat 5.

cantseeu posts the small blind of $50.
KaneKungFu123 posts the big blind of $100.

cantseeu: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

cantseeu raises to $300. KaneKungFu123 re-raises to
$2100. cantseeu calls.

Flop (board: 9c 4d Qc):

KaneKungFu123 bets $4200. cantseeu raises to $8400.
KaneKungFu123 goes all-in for $29281.50. cantseeu
goes all-in for $15941. KaneKungFu123 is returned
$13340.50 (uncalled).

Turn (board: 9c 4d Qc Ah):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 9c 4d Qc Ah 3s):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows 4c Qh.
KaneKungFu123 has 4c Qh 4d Qc Ah: two pair, queens and fours.
cantseeu shows Qs 8c.
cantseeu has Qs 8c 9c Qc Ah: a pair of queens.

[Gregg777]

.

cant has 18k, KKF covers

cant raises to 300, KKF raises to 2.1k, cant calls

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif4/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/club.gif

KKF bets 4.2k, cant min-raises, KKF pushes, cant calls

KKF: Q4o
cant: Q8o

Turn and river brick

edit: same hand bugstud posted, but prettier.

[Ole16]

[ QUOTE ]


i cant walk away.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would seriously hit the coffee right about now - just in case this guy has enough money to play 20hrs
straight /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Good luck though

[savman]

[ QUOTE ]
cant has 18k, KKF covers

cant raises to 300, KKF raises to 2.1k, cant calls

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif4/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/club.gif

KKF bets 4.2k, cant min-raises, KKF pushes, cant calls

KKF: Q4o
cant: Q8o

Turn and river brick

[/ QUOTE ]

maybe its Larry Flint! btw, your avatar is FREAKIN FABULOUS

[KowCiller]

So for those of us at work who are just now catching this thread, how much is KKF up so far? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

KKF, keep hammering him!

KoW

[Simplistic]

he broke him!

[TheWorstPlayer]

Looks like it's over. KKF is sitting on 135. Not sure how much he's up.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
So for those of us at work who are just now catching this thread, how much is KKF up so far? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

KKF, keep hammering him!

KoW

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't imagine it's much less than what it looks like

[Simplistic]

kane's won 100k+ from a two table session?

[Simplistic]

he's back!

edit: cantseeu cashed out of the other game so he could sit down with KKF. definitely looks like rabid monkey tilt

[Lady Dont Tekno]

[ QUOTE ]
he's back!

[/ QUOTE ]

[TheWorstPlayer]

Seems that way. And he's back with another 10K. LOL.

[AZK]

lol, it looks like cantseeu just stole that pot on the full table and then left so he could reload the max amount to play kkf heads up.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
lol, it looks like cantseeu just stole that pot on the full table and then left so he could reload the max amount to play kkf heads up.

[/ QUOTE ]

and then sits out

I've seen people have worse sessions, but kkf is putting on a show

[KowCiller]

[ QUOTE ]
lol, it looks like cantseeu just stole that pot on the full table and then left so he could reload the max amount to play kkf heads up.

[/ QUOTE ]

Man this is so awesome. What a great thread to help me escape the doldrums of office life and live vicariously through one of 2+2's best. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

KoW

[punter11235]

God, its incredible... I will play hard whole year to make 120k /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheWorstPlayer]

Um...I will work hard at work all year to NOT make 120K. And KKF's playing well, but he's also running really hot.

[bugstud]

[ QUOTE ]
Um...I will work hard at work all year to NOT make 120K. And KKF's playing well, but he's also running really hot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think game selection is a slightly bigger component of this run.

[ QUOTE ]
lol, it looks like cantseeu just stole that pot on the full table and then left so he could reload the max amount to play kkf heads up.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if 18quills was observing the other table, because if he was, he might have called with some pretty mediocre hands there

btw, the hand:

cant has 9.9k 18quils covers

cant pots it 3 off the button preflop, quills calls in BB

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif7/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/club.gif

quills checks, cant bets 750, quills calls

Turn: (Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif7/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/club.gif)J/images/graemlins/heart.gif

quills checks, cant bets 2250, quills calls

River: (Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif7/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/club.gifJ/images/graemlins/heart.gif)J/images/graemlins/spade.gif

quills checks, cant pushes for 6.5k, quills thinks and folds

[TheWorstPlayer]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Um...I will work hard at work all year to NOT make 120K. And KKF's playing well, but he's also running really hot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think game selection is a slightly bigger component of this run.

[/ QUOTE ]
True. Even when's he's hit well, other opponents would have been able to get off their hands. Cantseeu has made some truly horrific calls.

[ahnuld]

He definitly seems to be slowing down, he actually flat called turn and checked river with trips! Dont kno how good the game is anymore, but hes definitly not tilting now. Congrats on the big score anyways

He wasn't in position though

He might have been trying to induce a bluff

and after the hand KKF says:

'gh'
'I almost pushed the river'

KKF is trying to get cant to play passive?

[ahnuld]

Damn, u didnt lay down a K did u Kane? Board read 33KxJ 9k pot on river, ucant pushed for 9k, Kane folded.

[aexchange]

for those of us stuck at the office and aren't able to view this, please post more hands please.

[SpaceAce]

Well, Kane just potted the turn in position after being called on the flop and showed his KQ-high when cantseeu folded.

Edit: Cantseeu you has doubled up at this point, too.

SpaceAce

[KaneKungFu123]

hes getting crazy, again.

[ahnuld]

I dont get some of these calldowns by Kane. I realise the guy had [censored], like highcards, but he might have had a pair, why no riase?

Final board read 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif7 /images/graemlins/spade.gifT /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif KKF had the 8Q for the straight and flat called a river bet.

[SpaceAce]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont get some of these calldowns by Kane. I realise the guy had [censored], like highcards, but he might have had a pair, why no riase?

Final board read 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif7 /images/graemlins/spade.gifT /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif KKF had the 8Q for the straight and flat called a river bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Does Kane really want to be put to the test with his straight on a flushy board? Why raise the river and open yourself up to having to fold your straight or pay off a flush when the nutcase pushes for $20K? There are better places to make raises. Kane's straight wasn't even the best straight.

SpaceAce

I demand praise for doing this:

cant has 13k, KKF covers.

And by the way, for those who aren't observing, KKF's handle on UB is....

KaneKungFu123. Anyone else find this funny?

Preflop: KKF minraises on button, cant pots it, KKF calls

Flop: 1.2k
K/images/graemlins/club.gif3/images/graemlins/heart.gif3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

cant pots it KKF calls

Turn: 3.6k
7/images/graemlins/club.gif

cant checks, KKF bets 600 ?!? cant re-raises to 2.2k, KKF calls

River: J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

cant pushes for 9.2k, KKF folds

[SpaceAce]

Nice call with that JQ.

SpaceAce

[ahnuld]

Nice calldown!


Getting Hand History Information...
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Hand #8515054-45135 at Fortenza (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:33:22

cantseeu is at seat 5 with $19441.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 6 with $53758.
The button is at seat 6.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
cantseeu posts the big blind of $100.

cantseeu: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

KaneKungFu123 calls. cantseeu raises to $300.
KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $900. cantseeu calls.

Flop (board: 9d As Qh):

cantseeu checks. KaneKungFu123 checks.

Turn (board: 9d As Qh 2s):

cantseeu bets $1800. KaneKungFu123 calls.

River (board: 9d As Qh 2s 3d):

cantseeu bets $5400. KaneKungFu123 calls.



Showdown:

cantseeu shows Kd 8c.
cantseeu has Kd 8c 9d As Qh: ace high.
KaneKungFu123 shows Js Qs.
KaneKungFu123 has Js Qs 9d As Qh: a pair of queens.


Hand #8515054-45135 Summary:

$.50 is raked from a pot of $16200.
KaneKungFu123 wins $16199.50 with a pair of queens.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

nice one

LDT

[Simplistic]

kkf value calls to take down a 16k pot with 2ndPGK

keep it up kkf.

[Simplistic]

when there's this much money at stake, every hand makes for good watching lol

wow cant rebought for what looks like his last 1300

[ahnuld]

And its OVAH!

Hand #8515054-45151 at Fortenza (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:38:44

cantseeu is at seat 5 with $11589.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 6 with $61605.50.
The button is at seat 6.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
cantseeu posts the big blind of $100.

cantseeu: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

KaneKungFu123 calls. cantseeu raises to $300.
KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $2100. cantseeu calls.

Flop (board: Jd 9c 5s):

cantseeu checks. KaneKungFu123 bets $1000. cantseeu
goes all-in for $9489.50. KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: Jd 9c 5s Qc):

(no action in this round)


River (board: Jd 9c 5s Qc Qs):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

cantseeu shows 9h 7h.
cantseeu has 9h Jd 9c Qc Qs: two pair, queens and nines.
KaneKungFu123 shows Jc Jh.
KaneKungFu123 has Jc Jh Jd Qc Qs: full house, jacks full of queens.


Hand #8515054-45151 Summary:

$.50 is raked from a pot of $23179.
KaneKungFu123 wins $23178.50 with full house, jacks full of queens.

Lol @ the JJ hand. Worked like a charm!

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
Lol @ the JJ hand. Worked like a charm!

[/ QUOTE ]

i hit so many hands its not funny

i dont think he won a pot more then 4-5K.

And now, watch as I buy in for the minimum and play 2 hands...

Ya, when you hit a straight flush with 33 you know the poker gods loves you. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

It was fun to watch!

DAMN YOU KANE, YOU SAT OUT WHEN I HAD BUTTON!!!!

[fsuplayer]

why no river bet kane?


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Hand #8515041-27213 at Bhipak (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:43:20

noneedriver is at seat 3 with $22040.
boy_deuce is at seat 4 with $24050.
18quills is at seat 6 with $11332.
MrSmits is at seat 7 with $4310.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 8 with $75273.
The button is at seat 7.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
noneedriver posts the big blind of $100.

noneedriver: -- --
boy_deuce: -- --
18quills: -- --
MrSmits: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

boy_deuce raises to $350. 18quills folds. MrSmits
folds. KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $1150.
noneedriver folds. boy_deuce calls.

Flop (board: Qh Qc Jd):

KaneKungFu123 bets $2400. boy_deuce raises to $6000.
KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.

River (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s Ks):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.



Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows Qd 8d.
KaneKungFu123 has Qd Qh Qc Jd Ks: three queens.
boy_deuce mucks cards.


Hand #8515041-27213 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $14400.
KaneKungFu123 wins $14398 with three queens.
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[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
why no river bet kane?


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Hand #8515041-27213 at Bhipak (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:43:20

noneedriver is at seat 3 with $22040.
boy_deuce is at seat 4 with $24050.
18quills is at seat 6 with $11332.
MrSmits is at seat 7 with $4310.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 8 with $75273.
The button is at seat 7.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
noneedriver posts the big blind of $100.

noneedriver: -- --
boy_deuce: -- --
18quills: -- --
MrSmits: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

boy_deuce raises to $350. 18quills folds. MrSmits
folds. KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $1150.
noneedriver folds. boy_deuce calls.

Flop (board: Qh Qc Jd):

KaneKungFu123 bets $2400. boy_deuce raises to $6000.
KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.

River (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s Ks):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.



Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows Qd 8d.
KaneKungFu123 has Qd Qh Qc Jd Ks: three queens.
boy_deuce mucks cards.


Hand #8515041-27213 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $14400.
KaneKungFu123 wins $14398 with three queens.
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[/ QUOTE ]

the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[Yeti]

[ QUOTE ]
the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

AJ, KJ, KT, AK, etc, etc.

I accept I don't know which if any of these hands he's gonna call with, but I'm sure you missed quite a bit of value.

[fsuplayer]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why no river bet kane?


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Hand #8515041-27213 at Bhipak (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:43:20

noneedriver is at seat 3 with $22040.
boy_deuce is at seat 4 with $24050.
18quills is at seat 6 with $11332.
MrSmits is at seat 7 with $4310.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 8 with $75273.
The button is at seat 7.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
noneedriver posts the big blind of $100.

noneedriver: -- --
boy_deuce: -- --
18quills: -- --
MrSmits: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

boy_deuce raises to $350. 18quills folds. MrSmits
folds. KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $1150.
noneedriver folds. boy_deuce calls.

Flop (board: Qh Qc Jd):

KaneKungFu123 bets $2400. boy_deuce raises to $6000.
KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.

River (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s Ks):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.



Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows Qd 8d.
KaneKungFu123 has Qd Qh Qc Jd Ks: three queens.
boy_deuce mucks cards.


Hand #8515041-27213 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $14400.
KaneKungFu123 wins $14398 with three queens.
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[/ QUOTE ]

the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

if by 'only hand' you meant, 'only pocket pair above 10', then yes, i agree with you.

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

AJ, KJ, KT, AK, etc, etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

given my preflop action, pot-reraising, do you really think he has one of these hands with that action?

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why no river bet kane?


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Hand #8515041-27213 at Bhipak (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 10:43:20

noneedriver is at seat 3 with $22040.
boy_deuce is at seat 4 with $24050.
18quills is at seat 6 with $11332.
MrSmits is at seat 7 with $4310.50.
KaneKungFu123 is at seat 8 with $75273.
The button is at seat 7.

KaneKungFu123 posts the small blind of $50.
noneedriver posts the big blind of $100.

noneedriver: -- --
boy_deuce: -- --
18quills: -- --
MrSmits: -- --
KaneKungFu123: -- --

Pre-flop:

boy_deuce raises to $350. 18quills folds. MrSmits
folds. KaneKungFu123 re-raises to $1150.
noneedriver folds. boy_deuce calls.

Flop (board: Qh Qc Jd):

KaneKungFu123 bets $2400. boy_deuce raises to $6000.
KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.

River (board: Qh Qc Jd 5s Ks):

KaneKungFu123 checks. boy_deuce checks.



Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows Qd 8d.
KaneKungFu123 has Qd Qh Qc Jd Ks: three queens.
boy_deuce mucks cards.


Hand #8515041-27213 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $14400.
KaneKungFu123 wins $14398 with three queens.
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[/ QUOTE ]

the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

if by 'only hand' you meant, 'only pocket pair above 10', then yes, i agree with you.

[/ QUOTE ]

so i should bet the river because he has 22?

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

AJ, KJ, KT, AK, etc, etc.

I accept I don't know which if any of these hands he's gonna call with, but I'm sure you missed quite a bit of value.

[/ QUOTE ]

which of these hands are you playing this way on the flop?

which of these hands are you calling a bet with on the river?


if i bet the river, AA has a VERY hard time calling a bet.

[Yeti]

I haven't been paying attention to the guy at all, so can't comment on his play. But I have seen some goofy stuff today. I like betting this and hoping he makes a big call.

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the only hand i beat is AA. i was giving heavy consideration to a check-fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

AJ, KJ, KT, AK, etc, etc.

I accept I don't know which if any of these hands he's gonna call with, but I'm sure you missed quite a bit of value.

[/ QUOTE ]

which of these hands are you playing this way on the flop?

which of these hands are you calling a bet with on the river?


if i bet the river, AA has a VERY hard time calling a bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

which of those hands calls a pot-size reraise from blinds preflop? (besides AK - you get the point.)

[KaneKungFu123]

Man, I feel kinda bad and depressed about all of this.

Its like I "won the lottery", but its all at someone else's expense. the grief ive caused others was all sort of compounded tonight. i make my living off of other people's misery.

no wonder buddha talks about right livelyhood.

i might not play poker again after tonight.

[Yeti]

Are you still here? I thought your girlfriend killed you.

[Jason Strasser]

He woulda lost it to someone else.

The most shocking thing about all this is how you were somehow allowed to play HU without anyone stepping in. One table had a rock garden (for that game) and the other had a very live player and him all to yourself for the tail end.

[ QUOTE ]
i make my living off of other people's misery.

[/ QUOTE ]

You should've come to terms with this a while ago.
-Jason

[KaneKungFu123]

right livelyhood (http://buddhism.about.com/od/fournobletruths/a/ELivelihood.htm)

[Jason Strasser]

Oh, and by the way, I feel [censored] terrible for you.

-Jason

[SpaceAce]

[ QUOTE ]
Man, I feel kinda bad and depressed about all of this.

Its like I "won the lottery", but its all at someone else's expense. the grief ive caused others was all sort of compounded tonight. i make my living off of other people's misery.

no wonder buddha talks about right livelyhood.

i might not play poker again after tonight.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess this would be the other side of the endorphin high. If you're feeling that bad about it, give the money away. Otherwise, you're just posturing.

It's poker. You always win at someone else's expense. That's their concern, not yours. This guy had tens of thousands of dollars to lose to you so he's probably not in the soup line just yet.

SpaceAce

[Matt Flynn]

Congratulations Kane!

[fnord_too]

[ QUOTE ]
Man, I feel kinda bad and depressed about all of this.

Its like I "won the lottery", but its all at someone else's expense. the grief ive caused others was all sort of compounded tonight. i make my living off of other people's misery.

no wonder buddha talks about right livelyhood.

i might not play poker again after tonight.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think you should feel bad or depressed over this, but I do think it bodes well for you that you are not riding high on elation. I seriously doubt you destroyed this guy's life or anything, I've seen him sitting in a lot of high games. Sounds like he was on major tilt and blew his UB roll, which may or may not be his entire poker BR, and poker may or may not be his only source of income. If it is, and it was his entire roll (worst case scenario from your standpoint), he is a degenerate and needs to leave the game. Maybe you helped him realize that; maybe you did not.

If this causes him (more than passing) misery, he was miserable to begin with. You live in an incredibly poor country, you know that CSY most defintely still has more material wealth and luxury than most people in the world. It takes a miserable person to feel sorry for himself because he has lost some wealth when he is still wealthier than most (which CSY may or may not be doing. For all we know he may have woke up this morning fine with the whole thing).

You cannot take responsibility for the actions of others, and I don't think you acted in any way that influenced his actions. If you want to feel sorry about someones fate, look out your window and I am sure you will find a more deserving candidate for your sorrow.

[Ulysses]

I don't feel bad in situations like this because the guy is going to lose it anyway. However, people should not think that because someone goes off for 100k or whatever that they are some rich guy who can just blow it off and it doesn't matter. Oftentimes these are gambling addicts destroying their lives when this happens.

Sometimes, you'll get a guy like say Ben Affleck or Leo DiCaprio playing poker who can drop 100k+ in a night and it is just part of their partying/entertainment expense. There are other guys who can on a single night drop 100k that will essentially destroy their lives. These guys are gambling degenerates and they are all around poker, probably moreso online than live, since one of the few things that keeps them from totally blowing out live is a sense of shame and embarrassment that is hidden playing anonymously on a computer.

[ChicagoTroy]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't feel bad in situations like this because the guy is going to lose it anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't like this argument, or at least how its' worded, as it applies to crack dealers as well.

KKF is blameless, but I don't think that's why.

[Officer Farva]

[ QUOTE ]

I don't think you should feel bad or depressed over this, but I do think it bodes well for you that you are not riding high on elation. I seriously doubt you destroyed this guy's life or anything, I've seen him sitting in a lot of high games. Sounds like he was on major tilt and blew his UB roll, which may or may not be his entire poker BR, and poker may or may not be his only source of income. If it is, and it was his entire roll (worst case scenario from your standpoint), he is a degenerate and needs to leave the game. Maybe you helped him realize that; maybe you did not.

If this causes him (more than passing) misery, he was miserable to begin with. You live in an incredibly poor country, you know that CSY most defintely still has more material wealth and luxury than most people in the world. It takes a miserable person to feel sorry for himself because he has lost some wealth when he is still wealthier than most (which CSY may or may not be doing. For all we know he may have woke up this morning fine with the whole thing).

You cannot take responsibility for the actions of others, and I don't think you acted in any way that influenced his actions. If you want to feel sorry about someones fate, look out your window and I am sure you will find a more deserving candidate for your sorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]


Very well said.

But the assurance that cantseeu or others like him can afford to lose or are on an inevitablle path of self-destruction does not neccessarily answer to the source of KKF's guilt, compassion, or sympathy.

I often have similar feelings when beating opponents in poker, and even occassionally when I lose (though normally I'm just pissed as hell and hateful of the "luck" that must have caused them to win). This occurs especially when at B&M cardrooms where it is apparent that certain players cannot afford their losses. Lately, I have been confronting the fact that these feelings may cause me to play less than optimally in some situations.

More importantly, it makes me consider my long term future in poker. And while I don't believe that your profession necessarily controls your spirituality or ultimate happiness, I sense that the negative feelings I can go through while playing poker may not be good for me in the long run.

I'd be interested to hear thoughts on this. I'm sure this belongs in another forum but I thought KKF's experience was particularly poignant.

[Rococo]

KKF,

If taking this guy's money was somehow immoral or unethical (and I am not suggesting that it was), you cannot justify your conduct (as some on the board have suggested) on the ground that he would have lost the money to someone else if not you. If I see someone dead drunk in the street with a twenty dollar bill in his hand, I can be fairly certain that if I don't take the money, someone else will. That doesn't justify me taking it, of course.

As El D implied, you have to decide whether you are OK with taking money from a combination of rich guys and degenerate gamblers. If you are, fine, and if not, that's OK too, but don't kid yourself about where the profit is in the nosebleed games.

[fnord_too]

Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting that he was or was not a gambling addict, or destroying/not destroying his life, since I have no clue. If he is a degenerate destroying his life, I feel bad for him, but not as bad as I feel for the vast world population who lives in abject poverty. Whether degenrates who blow through 100k realize it or not, they still have it better than a lot of people. (You can be poor and happy and enlightened, but poor is nowhere nearly an adequate description for many parts of the world).

I've written a few times that everytime I play live I am hit in the face with just how degenerate some players are. It truly shocks me, and this is something one is mostly shielded from on line.

At any rate, I think the fact that KKF is not just euphoric over the big win is suggestive that he is not a degenrate gambler (who happens to be a winning player).

As to the live/online thing, what are your thoughts on the limitations on the volume of cash you can move per unit time on line? It seems like that mitigates a fair amount of the "destroy your life" potential. (though I may just not know the how and where to get large chunks of money in play on line quickly.)

[punter11235]

Cant wait for what you will say about " I need to work on this and stop thinking short term. " now /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Ulysses]

[ QUOTE ]
everytime I play live I am hit in the face with just how degenerate some players are.

[/ QUOTE ]

Especially at lower limits live. At 3/6 and 6/12 I would routinely see guys blow their rent/food/diaper/etc. money. When I started playing 15/30, I'd sometimes see these guys make a last ditch effort by taking a stab at 15/30 with their case money.

[ QUOTE ]
(though I may just not know the how and where to get large chunks of money in play on line quickly.)

[/ QUOTE ]

Where there's a will, there's a way.

[maddog2030]

[ QUOTE ]
Man, I feel kinda bad and depressed about all of this.

Its like I "won the lottery", but its all at someone else's expense. the grief ive caused others was all sort of compounded tonight. i make my living off of other people's misery.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, if you felt that bad, you could give him his money back.

I have a feeling you don't feel that bad.

[Go_Blue88]

I think that this is my favorite 2+2 thread of all time. I wish I saw it live, but reading it was cool as hell. Nice job man...that's awesome.

[chuddo]

you busted me kane. you filthy luckbox. time to rob a bank or kidnap angelina jolie's baby. thanks a lot buddy.

[Ryendal]

So how many did you win today ???

[adanthar]

It's funny, but that post is exactly why I stick to tournaments.

Still...I think you can get over it after a 100K+ win. If you feel bad about it two days from now, take a good chunk of it and save some kids' lives (you're in Thailand, ought to be easy.) If there is such a thing as karma I would think that would balance it out.

[psyduck]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Man, I feel kinda bad and depressed about all of this.

Its like I "won the lottery", but its all at someone else's expense. the grief ive caused others was all sort of compounded tonight. i make my living off of other people's misery.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, if you felt that bad, you could give him his money back.

I have a feeling you don't feel that bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

How about instead of giving the guy back his money so he can lose it to someone else, Kane uses it for charitable purposes where he lives? Like zillions of people said, there are tons of people a lot more unlucky in that part of the world than CantSeeU.

[maddog2030]

[ QUOTE ]
How about instead of giving the guy back his money so he can lose it to someone else, Kane uses it for charitable purposes where he lives? Like zillions of people said, there are tons of people a lot more unlucky in that part of the world than CantSeeU.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wasn't seriously suggesting he give it back.

[kagame]

having taken numerous courses on buddhism i can tell you theres nothing especially noble or wise about that particular religious tradition when it comes to this sort of scenario

honestly, you can make fairly strong arguments that HE had bad karma and you had GOOD karma, thus you recieved a positive result

also, he is the sick person consumed by desire and fear, you are the one with a calm stoicism necessary to play poker well

simply by saying you have guilt about what you allowed this person to do to his/herself , you show right mindfulness and are way ahead of the average person

funny how the rudest crudest dude from past posting could be such a softie ;-)

great run man

[KaneKungFu123]

i woke up this morning and didn't feel bad anymore.

i do plan to something charitable in this country. i am not sure what though.

[boose_bagina]

you need a name change after what happened this morning...pooh-bah doesn't do you justice. Something like 'the bankrupter' or 'the homeless-maker' has a better ring...or blah blah blah if that makes you feel like crap, 'the guy that give a lot of winnnings to charity -er'

[JMP300z]

"GA solution"

-JP

[JihadOnTheRiver]

This was the most interesting thread I have read on this site, for numerous reasons. Kane, are you going to use this as a starter for continuing into the bigger games? Or was this more of just fish-fest. Either way, congrats. Wish I was awake to see the blood bath.

-JOTR

Also, are we ever gonna know who cantseeu is? I'm thinking "anonymous" internet player, but it would be interesting if it were someone good. I see him playing the 3/6 HU game on there from time to time, and he's always dancing around the different games (2-7, O, O8B, stud...)

[TomHimself]

would be mad funny is this was jordan berkowicks playing as cantseeu (sp?)



nice job KKF!

[KaneKungFu123]

[ QUOTE ]
This was the most interesting thread I have read on this site, for numerous reasons. Kane, are you going to use this as a starter for continuing into the bigger games? Or was this more of just fish-fest. Either way, congrats. Wish I was awake to see the blood bath.

-JOTR

Also, are we ever gonna know who cantseeu is? I'm thinking "anonymous" internet player, but it would be interesting if it were someone good. I see him playing the 3/6 HU game on there from time to time, and he's always dancing around the different games (2-7, O, O8B, stud...)

[/ QUOTE ]

when he first sat he wanted to play 3/6 limit. luckily no one would give him action there.

[boose_bagina]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This was the most interesting thread I have read on this site, for numerous reasons. Kane, are you going to use this as a starter for continuing into the bigger games? Or was this more of just fish-fest. Either way, congrats. Wish I was awake to see the blood bath.

-JOTR

Also, are we ever gonna know who cantseeu is? I'm thinking "anonymous" internet player, but it would be interesting if it were someone good. I see him playing the 3/6 HU game on there from time to time, and he's always dancing around the different games (2-7, O, O8B, stud...)

[/ QUOTE ]

when he first sat he wanted to play 3/6 limit. luckily no one would give him action there.

[/ QUOTE ]
that just doesn't make sense, that someone with their BR would want to sit at 3/6, decide not to, then blow everything at 50/100NL?? Wouldn't someone with their BR who plays 3/6 be uber-conservative?? Maybe I'm missing something and Captain Obv. is around the corner waiting to make an appearance.

[Subfallen]

300/600

[LearnedfromTV]

[ QUOTE ]

I see him playing the 3/6 HU game on there from time to time, and he's always dancing around the different games (2-7, O, O8B, stud...)

[/ QUOTE ]


that just doesn't make sense, that someone with their BR would want to sit at 3/6, decide not to, then blow everything at 50/100NL?? Wouldn't someone with their BR who plays 3/6 be uber-conservative?? Maybe I'm missing something and Captain Obv. is around the corner waiting to make an appearance.

[/ QUOTE ]

3/6 = shorthand for 300/600 here, I think.

This thread was a good read. Congrats to KKF.

[boose_bagina]

[ QUOTE ]
300/600

[/ QUOTE ]
ahhh, there we go. The Capt. just gave me a tap on the shoulder and smiled.

[KaneKungFu123]

hes back.

not playing crazy. sitting 6 handed.

[tom441lbk]

he just sat down with KKF headsup then sat out, trying to get him come play 3-6 heads up with him

[Marlow]

[ QUOTE ]
i woke up this morning and didn't feel bad anymore.

i do plan to something charitable in this country. i am not sure what though.

[/ QUOTE ]

The "Kane Kung Fu Foundation" has a nice ring to it.

Your compassion and concern for right living is truly heartening. As a poker player, I'm quite glad that this guy is seperated from his money. As a person who seems to share some of your world view, I understand the need to give back to the world somehow. My advice is to give money and then become involved in how it is used. Seeing a school built (or something comperable) might be one of the best and most fulfilling experiences of your life.

The problem "I've just hit the poker lottery and now need to decide how to use some of it to change other people's lives" is about the best personal problem I can think of.

MArlow

[tom441lbk]

gp just sat down with KKF 4 handed with two shorties, looks like KKF is out of the easy money

[Gamblor]

Not for 100k, but these kinds of nights where I make a score I usually end up making posts like these:

We are the sewers of society (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=2484575&page=)

While the first few replies certainly misconstrued the point of the post, i think it is at times a worthwhile read.

[KaneKungFu123]

Hand #8515054-45647 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $4600.
KaneKungFu123 wins $4598.
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Hand #8515054-45646 at Fortenza (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 20:49:46

KaneKungFu123 is at seat 1 with $14339.
noneedriver is at seat 4 with $9187.
mulberry1 is at seat 5 with $27535.50.
mobile60 is at seat 8 with $10381.
The button is at seat 5.

mobile60 posts the small blind of $50.
KaneKungFu123 posts the big blind of $100.

KaneKungFu123: Tc Ts
noneedriver: -- --
mulberry1: -- --
mobile60: -- --

Pre-flop:

noneedriver raises to $350. mulberry1 folds.
mobile60 re-raises to $1150. KaneKungFu123 calls.
noneedriver folds.

Flop (board: 9c 7h 5s):

mobile60 checks. KaneKungFu123 bets $2650. mobile60
goes all-in for $9231. KaneKungFu123 calls.

Turn (board: 9c 7h 5s 4s):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 9c 7h 5s 4s Ad):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

mobile60 shows 3s 8s.
mobile60 has 8s 9c 7h 5s Ad: ace high.
KaneKungFu123 shows Tc Ts.
KaneKungFu123 has Tc Ts 9c 7h Ad: a pair of tens.


Hand #8515054-45646 Summary:

$2 is raked from a pot of $21112.
KaneKungFu123 wins $21110 with a pair of tens.
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[KaneKungFu123]

Hand #8515054-45651 at Fortenza (No Limit Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 13/Oct/05 20:53:07

KaneKungFu123 is at seat 1 with $27266.
noneedriver is at seat 4 with $6587.
mulberry1 is at seat 5 with $27535.50 (sitting out).
mobile60 is at seat 8 with $4550.
The button is at seat 1.

noneedriver posts the small blind of $50.
mobile60 posts the big blind of $100.

KaneKungFu123: Qs Ac
noneedriver: -- --
mobile60: -- --

Pre-flop:

KaneKungFu123 raises to $350. noneedriver folds.
mobile60 calls.

Flop (board: 7h 3c Td):

mobile60 checks. KaneKungFu123 bets $750. mobile60
calls.

Turn (board: 7h 3c Td 4d):

mobile60 checks. KaneKungFu123 checks.

River (board: 7h 3c Td 4d Qd):

mobile60 checks. KaneKungFu123 goes all-in for
$26166. mobile60 goes all-in for $3450.
KaneKungFu123 is returned $22716 (uncalled).



Showdown:

KaneKungFu123 shows Qs Ac.
KaneKungFu123 has Qs Ac 7h Td Qd: a pair of queens.
mobile60 shows Jh 3h.
mobile60 has Jh 3h 3c Td Qd: a pair of threes.


Hand #8515054-45651 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $9150.
KaneKungFu123 wins $9149 with a pair of queens.
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[partygirluk]

wtf ?

[-Skeme-]

wtf @ how fishy this game is. Kane, by me a Sonicare tooth brush, El D says it's good.

[KingMedicine]

cants playing anotehr guy 3/6 hu right now. i bet if you went over there kane, hed rather donate to your foundation rather than dump it to this other guy.

[James282]

[ QUOTE ]
cants playing anotehr guy 3/6 hu right now. i bet if you went over there kane, hed rather donate to your foundation rather than dump it to this other guy.

[/ QUOTE ]

He is playing much better than his opponent.
-James

[ukpokerplayer]

is it possible he was extremely drunbk last night and woke up thinking WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF when he logged on. or is this some rich SOB just messing about?

[Andrew Fletcher]

Aren't there better ways for rich people to mess around?

[ukpokerplayer]

i dunno, i'm poor

[AZK]

yeah, like hookers.

[fnord_too]

[ QUOTE ]
is it possible he was extremely drunbk last night and woke up thinking WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF when he logged on. or is this some rich SOB just messing about?

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe last night was like when SR sits at the big limit games.

[Borknagar]

But this time at the limit tables, $300/600.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
300/600

[/ QUOTE ]
ahhh, there we go. The Capt. just gave me a tap on the shoulder and smiled.

[/ QUOTE ]

That was not me.

[AZK]

nh

[JihadOnTheRiver]

excellent use of a gimmick

[Raydain]

So roughly how much did Kane win through all of this?

[pokernicus]

Based on the info in the "IT'S OVAH" post he would have had a stack of $73,194.50 when the smoke cleared. Assuming he bought in for 10k, the final profit would have been $63,194.50

[captZEEbo1]

[ QUOTE ]
Based on the info in the "IT'S OVAH" post he would have had a stack of $73,194.50 when the smoke cleared. Assuming he bought in for 10k, the final profit would have been $63,194.50

[/ QUOTE ]
he was up a lot on TWO tables though, not just one. Although I don't know how many times he rebought at other tables and those tables before he ran hot.

[SuperJez]

cantseeu has just sat down at 50100 NL again....

Jez

[PoBoy321]

It looks like he's playing a bit better tonight, though.