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Zygote
10-13-2005, 01:21 AM
Has anyone succesfully done this? Any recommendations?

wikipedia on lucid dreaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming)

benkahuna
10-13-2005, 01:26 AM
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Has anyone succesfully done this? Any recommendations?

wikipedia on lucid dreaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming)

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Yep, I have. And I've programmed myself to do it successfully before I went to sleep. All I did was believe that I could make it happen and told myself that I was going to make it happen. Waking yourself up in this situation is very easy, a little too easy as if you even sort of feel like waking up, you will. It's kind of fun, but I haven't done it a bunch because it was mildly entertaining.

I happened upon my first lucid dream accidentally. The events that occurred were such that I just thought, "This is BS, I must be dreaming," and then realized that I was. On later occassionas I took control of the events in the dream. I figured I'd be able to control the events as the events in a dream are generated by the brain.

YMMV

BruceZ
10-13-2005, 02:25 AM
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Has anyone succesfully done this? Any recommendations?

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I often realize that I am dreaming and then control what I do in the dream. Sometimes I wonder if I am dreaming and decide that I am not, and later I wake up. I have also had multiply nested dreams, or dreams inside of other dreams. Sometimes I have difficulty waking up. The converse never happens, that is, I never really decide that I'm dreaming when I am not.

benkahuna
10-13-2005, 02:36 AM
I never had a multiply nested dream until I saw a McDonald's commerical in which some guy had one.

:P

Another way McDonald's has caused damage to this world.

Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!
10-13-2005, 02:51 AM
i think most people have done this at one time or another. ever will yourself to fly? your prolly having a lucid dream.

chezlaw
10-13-2005, 03:04 AM
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I never had a multiply nested dream until I saw a McDonald's commerical in which some guy had one.

:P

Another way McDonald's has caused damage to this world.

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Didn't you see american werewolf in london?

I've never had a nested dream (that I know of) but have lucid dreams regularly.

chez

Trantor
10-13-2005, 03:19 AM
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Has anyone succesfully done this? Any recommendations?

wikipedia on lucid dreaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming)

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I've had lucid dreams only a handful of times (over too many years!) and the technique that made me "aware" was the following of several techniques I've read about.

Tell yourself before drifting off to sleep that if you see any writing you will reread it and see if it changes. If it does then you are set up to say to yourself in the dream "It changed I must be dreaming".

This can a street sign, a book title, any writing..read it look away and reread it.



I told my daugter of this method and a couple of days later she had her first lucid dream.

Keep at it (however you try .You will get a real kick when you do it!

Now I'm going to make an effort and try and have another one!

10-13-2005, 03:25 AM
I have done this unintentionally on numerous occasions. Usually, I realize that the things that are happening don't make sense or that I'm in a store or place that doesn't exist anymore. I've tried then to control what is happening in my dream, which is very difficult for me. I usually think "hey, this is a dream, let's do some messed up stuff" but then I start thinking "I hope I don't wake up" and then I wake up before I get to change the outcome of my dream. Either I wake up, or the dream vanishes into another dream and I forget that I'm dreaming. But I do have definite realizations that I'm dreaming and can only do anything while knowing this for a short time before I wake up or am swept away to another dream which I believe to be true(I get refooled into thinking that my dream is real). I always remember it in the morning and say "damn, I forgot to control it again".

FreakDaddy
10-13-2005, 03:26 AM
Become 'aware' in your dreams is a direct reflection of how 'aware' you are in your 'waking' life.

To answer your question - yes, many times. Everyone has, but not everyone 'remembers'.

10-13-2005, 03:36 AM
www.lucidity.com (http://www.lucidity.com)

Theres's a really informative forum there.

benkahuna
10-13-2005, 05:02 AM
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Become 'aware' in your dreams is a direct reflection of how 'aware' you are in your 'waking' life.

To answer your question - yes, many times. Everyone has, but not everyone 'remembers'.

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Who says the first part? And aware of what? I see no reason to assume that having more lucid dreams means your more aware of anything in waking life. Perhaps I'm missing your reference or your meaning. Given that I can program myself to have lucid dreams, doesn't it seem unlikely that lucid dreams mean I'm more aware in waking life? All that shows to me is that if I chose to have more lucid dreams that I could.

For the second part, how could you possibly know that someone has ever had a lucid dream if they, themself, have not reported it. Even if it's exceedingly common, there are the freakish exceptions like the Israeli soldier that didn't dream or have REM sleep (as reported in the mid-80s Guiness Book of World Records). You don't have to have REM sleep to live, btw, but without deep sleep you get extremely groggy and rats will die without being allowed deep sleep in something like 28 days (whereas with no sleep they die in like 14 days). Yes, human experimentalists are obviously cruel.

Your statements sound absolutist along the lines of saying people that have exploding head syndrome have all been electrocuted at some point.
BTW, exploding head syndrome is an actual medical condition, a variant of normal, in which people experience abrupt jolts that feel electric in quality and aurally (like a thunderclap) while drifting off to sleep that about 10 percent of the population experiences. It's not known to be related to any medical condition or other situation. It merely make it momentarily difficult to get to sleep.

I'd be curious about your sources. I'm not saying your wrong. But, I am saying I have a damn hard time believing you.

Can you tell me more?

10-13-2005, 06:12 AM
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exploding head syndrome is an actual medical condition, a variant of normal, in which people experience abrupt jolts that feel electric in quality and aurally (like a thunderclap) while drifting off to sleep that about 10 percent of the population experiences. It's not known to be related to any medical condition or other situation. It merely make it momentarily difficult to get to sleep.


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I get this often. I'm almost asleep and then it feels like I get an electric shock and I am suddenly wide awake. I realize that I was basically about to fall asleep and lose consciousness, but then I'm jolted back into being awake. I never knew that it was a syndrome. So I can say that I have "exploding head syndrome"? Is that the real term for it?

benkahuna
10-13-2005, 06:26 AM
It's for real. I get it too. I LOVE the name. I give the medical community mad props for making that the official name of a diagnosis.

Here's a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome) about it.

I guess other people were a little more disturbed about it than me. I always just went back to sleep so I didn't really sweat it. I asked a doctor about it one time which is how I found out what it is and what it was called.

brassnuts
10-13-2005, 06:59 AM
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Here's a link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome)about it.

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That sounds very much like Sleep Paralysis and Associated Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Experiences. (http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html) There is currently a thread running in OOT about this stuff.