Setting up a second neteller account for Party rakeback

[bobbyi]

I haven't found a new affiliate that I can use for Party rakeback yet. One thing that is holding me back is that I've heard rumors that in order to switch to a different affiliate, I would need to set up and start using a new neteller account rather than the one I used for my old (current) Party account. Does anyone know if neteller allows this using my same checking account? If it would require me to set up a new bank account, that seems like a real hassle. On the other hand, I don't want neteller to accuse me of some sort of fraud for linking two neteller accounts to the same checking account. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.

[Nicholasp27]

use igmpay or firepay or prepaidatm instead of neteller

[bobbyi]

I've already used igmpay on my existing Party account, so I was assuming that wouldn't work.

The other options you suggest don't let me cash out so they aren't a complete solution. I guess I could use a Firepay account to deposit and withdraw by requesting Party to mail me a check?

[J_B]

Open another bank account and IGMPAY to that one.

[Jeff W]

Motherfucker... this second neteller [censored] is unbelievable. Why is Party creating this hassle?

You can't link two Neteller accounts to one checking account.

[7ontheline]

I wondered about this too. The Neteller site says you can't have more than one account at a time. I have two bank accounts, but I don't want to run into problems. It's not like I can change my name or address. Anyone here have two Neteller accounts?

[TStoneMBD]

this is a line of email from stox support:

...you can also ask neteller to close your account and open a new one...

i emailed him back tonight for more details on this but i havent heard anything yet. im going to call neteller tommorow and see if i can do anything about it.

[bobbyi]

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...you can also ask neteller to close your account and open a new one...

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If I do this, the next time I cash out from, say, Stars are they going to lock my account or something for cashing out to a different neteller account than I've used in the past?

[TStoneMBD]

i have no idea but im glad you brought this up because its something i have to worry about too then.

[RunDownHouse]

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One thing that is holding me back is that I've heard rumors that in order to switch to a different affiliate, I would need to set up and start using a new neteller account rather than the one I used for my old (current) Party account.

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I was under the impression that you could not fund your new account from the same source (NETeller) initially, but that once your account was up and running, you could cash out/deposit using your old NETeller as normal. This way, you could IGMPay/Firepay/Credit Card initally and then revert.

With all of the confusion circling, I could easily be wrong. Anyone have more concrete info?

I am paying a friend 100 bucks for him to make a party and neteller account I can use.

Setting up a new bank account is pretty easy, not such a hassle. But I don't think this would help neteller. If i remember correct, in the u.s., neteller requires your ssn#, getting a new one of those would be quite a hassle and probably illegal.

Maybe IGM though a new account might fly, but you have an additional problem it seems, you sign up new account and play from same computer/IP address as the old account. This will be flagged right away, and questioned at first payout. I think you will get caught for this and accounts frozen. Anyone else think so?

[gila]

I think I might try moneybookers. This is listed under PP deposit methods. Anyone have any experience?

...with moneybookers that is; not hookers, or drugs, sex, etc.

epassporte works great, Costs alot to fund but then withdrawls happen in less then 10 minutes and you can get the money out of any ATM up to $600 a day.

[nukemar25]

Ok, I have dealt with all of this in the last two days so I will try to answer as much as I can. You can not use any financial accounts that you ever used on the old account even if that account is closed. I tried and failed. I also tried opeing a new neteller account and failed. I sat on the phone with support for 30 minutes just for them to tell me to contact party and explain. I was trying to get them to let me open a new account and transfer my funds automatically to the new account. I know they can do this because people have posted on 2+2 that they have done this. I think they were just being lazy. The best solution I can think of is to empty my neteller account and close it and then open a new one with a different e-mail address or start using moneybrokers just for party.

[nukemar25]

This should not be a problem as long as the e-mail associated with the neteller account and the stars account match.

[DitMeMay]

this is what i did to fund my 2nd neteller account. got my bro to sign up a new neteller account. then i used the funds from Eurobet to transfer to my new neteller account. Eurobet lets you transer to any neteller account not like Empire.party etc

[TrueBritt]

But apparently you can't get rakeback on party now anyway, right?

[x2ski]

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But apparently you can't get rakeback on party now anyway, right?

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Correct.

[goodguy_1]

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correct

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you gotta chill with the negativity...this is going to work out somehow... we will get something back somehow either thru Party directly or by other means but it aint going to be the 32% I got from EuroBet.

[Dariel86]

Moneybookers works nice, no problems

[absentx]

Is Moneybookers similar to neteller in that you can use no matter what country your from and things like that? Easy cash out and deposit?

[froggy527]

With as much trouble as I had setting up my Neteller account
I would hate to think of what it would be like doing another!

[robinsons]

if they ask why you are opening a new account.. just tell them you think the old account is unlucky so you want to start again

[goodguy_1]

believe me they want you to be able to open up new accounts easily as long as security is maintaned-thats how they make their money-if their business gets stunted by these latest moves by Party watch them loosen things up.

One reason why Neteller has been doing so well over the last year is many players have been shoting money in and out of multiple pokerrooms/skins to chase bonuses.They make money on all these tranacations- This latest move by Party really hurts them because now players arent going to move around as much since The Skin Network is barely playable...that hurts Neteller bigtime.

Neteller NLR.L is again down this morning. It didnt bounce much yesterday while other stocks had a good day -the company will really be hurt by Party's latest moves.

It should not be difficult to open up new Neteller accounts unless there are some UK online banking rules I'm unfamilair with.

[Inthacup]

insightful post, gg_1

[MAxx]

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Open another bank account and IGMPAY to that one.

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Do you think it would be sufficient to just open a new alternative to Neteller, such as IGMPAY. If you did this, why would you need to open a new bank account? If I remember correctly, wouldn't all party need is the IGMPAY info. They wouldn't need to know where the source from the funds originates from, ie your checking account.......or would they?

[nukemar25]

IGMPAY is Party Poker's own payment system and you transfer funds directly from a bank account to your Party account. If you never used IGMPAY with your old account then you can use it now. Main problem with IGMPAY is that it is very slow compared to neteller.

[ghostface]

i guess i'm lucky. when i was twelve my mom opened a joint checking account so its in both our names. i can just have her create a second party account, neteller account, and igmpay account if i feel the need to... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[berya]

"Main problem with IGMPAY is that it is very slow compared to neteller"

How slow?

[sthief09]

1. use checking account to deposit $50 into firepay
2. deposit the money I want in Party from Neteller into Empire/Intertops/Multi (any site that uses firepay)
3. deposit $50 from firepay into above site
4. play a few hands
5. cash all money out to firepay
6. deposit to party with firepay

[jnalpak]

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One thing that is holding me back is that I've heard rumors that in order to switch to a different affiliate, I would need to set up and start using a new neteller account rather than the one I used for my old (current) Party account.

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I was under the impression that you could not fund your new account from the same source (NETeller) initially, but that once your account was up and running, you could cash out/deposit using your old NETeller as normal. This way, you could IGMPay/Firepay/Credit Card initally and then revert.

With all of the confusion circling, I could easily be wrong. Anyone have more concrete info?

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I believe you are correct in your thoughts

[jnalpak]

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1. use checking account to deposit $50 into firepay
2. deposit the money I want in Party from Neteller into Empire/Intertops/Multi (any site that uses firepay)
3. deposit $50 from firepay into above site
4. play a few hands
5. cash all money out to firepay
6. deposit to party with firepay

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good plan, but how will you withdraw?

[aucu]

I was under the impression that you could not fund your new account from the same source (NETeller) initially, but that once your account was up and running, you could cash out/deposit using your old NETeller as normal. This way, you could IGMPay/Firepay/Credit Card initally and then revert.

With all of the confusion circling, I could easily be wrong. Anyone have more concrete info?

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I believe you are correct in your thoughts

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I asked exactly this and you can't do it.

[jnalpak]

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I was under the impression that you could not fund your new account from the same source (NETeller) initially, but that once your account was up and running, you could cash out/deposit using your old NETeller as normal. This way, you could IGMPay/Firepay/Credit Card initally and then revert.

With all of the confusion circling, I could easily be wrong. Anyone have more concrete info?

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I believe you are correct in your thoughts

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I asked exactly this and you can't do it.

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i stand corrected, you can not use neteller again. at least, at the moment.

[somapopper]

I lost the login info to my neteller account once and it was registered under an email account that had shut down. Neteller let me open up a new one, close the old one, and all the pokersites allowed me to switch accounts.

Party also allows funding via a MYCITADEL account, which also links directly to your bank account. It seems to work just like neteller. I'm in the process of establishing a Mycitadel (not the vanilla "citadel") account. Anyone with bad experience with them?

[sthief09]

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1. use checking account to deposit $50 into firepay
2. deposit the money I want in Party from Neteller into Empire/Intertops/Multi (any site that uses firepay)
3. deposit $50 from firepay into above site
4. play a few hands
5. cash all money out to firepay
6. deposit to party with firepay

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good plan, but how will you withdraw?

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firepay?

[SinCityGuy]

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good plan, but how will you withdraw?

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firepay?

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Firepay is not an option for withdrawal through the Pay-Pro cashier system, which is used by all of the skins.

[bobdibble]

I am considering setting up a Moneybrokers account to fund a new PP account. This seems a lot easier than trying to move neteller accounts.

Anyone have any experience with Moneybrokers?

[bobbyi]

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1. use checking account to deposit $50 into firepay
2. deposit the money I want in Party from Neteller into Empire/Intertops/Multi (any site that uses firepay)
3. deposit $50 from firepay into above site
4. play a few hands
5. cash all money out to firepay
6. deposit to party with firepay

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good plan, but how will you withdraw?

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Can't you just have Party mail you a check? That's what I used to do with Paradise back in the day.

[stabn]

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1. use checking account to deposit $50 into firepay
2. deposit the money I want in Party from Neteller into Empire/Intertops/Multi (any site that uses firepay)
3. deposit $50 from firepay into above site
4. play a few hands
5. cash all money out to firepay
6. deposit to party with firepay

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good plan, but how will you withdraw?

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Can't you just have Party mail you a check? That's what I used to do with Paradise back in the day.

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That doesn't work for sthiefs plan of getting it into firepay to deposit in party with though. It is a fix otherwise though.

FWIW i had firepay/ switched to IGM the first time i tried to cash out and found no firepay on the list. So neteller w/ a new party SN is going to work for me.

[beset7]

epassporte is just like neteller only faster.

its good you guys are thinking about this. i had my wife open a new party account for me to get rb and then funded it with my neteller and the money got frozen. I had her call party and they eventually released the money after she explained that her husband had funded the account so she could play some poker. I'm not sure what's going to happen when i cash out or put more money on the account... probably have her open an epassporte account.

[raze]

anyone successful in keeping two Neteller accounts W two separate bank accounts? PM me plz

[MexKrax]

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Party also allows funding via a MYCITADEL account, which also links directly to your bank account. It seems to work just like neteller. I'm in the process of establishing a Mycitadel (not the vanilla "citadel") account. Anyone with bad experience with them?

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I've used Mycitadel at a couple of online casinos. I wasn't terribly impressed with them. My main problem is that they have painfully low deposit limits and you can't get them increased to a reasonable level until you've had an account there for 6 months. This won't be an issue if you're play $0.5/$1, but if you're playing $5/$10 or higher only being able to transfer like $500 a week really bites.

[WalkAmongUs]

This all has an easy solution. Fund your account with Firepay. Cash out to your old Neteller. Simple.

YOU CAN CASH OUT TO YOUR OLD NETELLER.

You just can't deposit with it.

[gildwulf]

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Open another bank account and IGMPAY to that one.

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Can you do this with the same name and different email address? Or do you have to sign up under another name?

[EvanJC]

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YOU CAN CASH OUT TO YOUR OLD NETELLER.


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can anybody else verify this?

[AAAA]

Neteller might not like this, but try setting up a moneybookers account. I have set it up, but haven't funded it yet. I think party may be leading a mini rebellion against the cost of neteller transactions with this limit of one account for neteller.

Speaking of finding an affiliate for PP... anyone out there with info please get back to me. I have never had an acct there, so that should help.

[Surfbullet]

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YOU CAN CASH OUT TO YOUR OLD NETELLER.


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can anybody else verify this?

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[gp?]

yes, you can cash out to old neteller.

i spent an hour on the phone talking to neteller about closing my old account and opening a new one, but they werent having it.

just use firepay to deposit and neteller to withdraw.

[EvanJC]

anybody else?

[josh1122]

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I haven't found a new affiliate that I can use for Party rakeback yet. One thing that is holding me back is that I've heard rumors that in order to switch to a different affiliate, I would need to set up and start using a new neteller account rather than the one I used for my old (current) Party account. Does anyone know if neteller allows this using my same checking account? If it would require me to set up a new bank account, that seems like a real hassle. On the other hand, I don't want neteller to accuse me of some sort of fraud for linking two neteller accounts to the same checking account. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.

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If you are interested in holding two Neteller accounts at once, then this post will not help you.

But if you want to open a new Neteller account and close your old one, simply call customer support and request that your account be closed. They will do it.

Once the old one is closed, open a new one using the standard signup process. You can use all the same information. Once you verify your bank account, though, the system will still link your deleted account to your bank account, thus not allowing you to link it to the new one. Again, just call them and request that your bank account be linked to the new one instead of the old one.

This process works as I and several people I know have done it. You just need to keep calling them until everything is worked out.