Counterfeit money being passed in cardrooms

Does anyone else think that cardrooms are a perfect place to pass some phoney money? I can't think of a place (even casinos) where it's common for hundreds of dollars are carried and passed around so callously.

Admittedly, I often accept $1000 cash from an otherwise stranger for a rack of chips as I'm leaving the table, or while at the window. I'm sure you've all done it.

Also, chips and cash floats back and forth between the floorperson and the players. I'm sure that would be an easy opportunity for a crook as well.

Obviously, you can avoid most concerns by doing mone transactions only with the cashier.

Has the thought of counterfeit money in a cardroom ever crossed your mind? Comments?

[Randy_Refeld]

I know when I worked in LA the dealers all carried those markers to check money. I have no idea how well those work.

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I know when I worked in LA the dealers all carried those markers to check money. I have no idea how well those work.

[/ QUOTE ]1. Contrary to LA, no cash plays on the table in all of NorCal (to my knowledge).
2. When I've played in LA during the past year, I've never er seen a dealer check any money for authenticity.

[PokerFink]

It would be easy to clean fake bills by selling them to other players. Cashiers, on the other hand, can probably spot fake bills pretty easily. Afterall, they handle money all day every day.

[cwsiggy]

so Rick Masters is back in business eh?

Great movie BTW.

[Randy_Refeld]

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I know when I worked in LA the dealers all carried those markers to check money. I have no idea how well those work.

[/ QUOTE ]1. Contrary to LA, no cash plays on the table in all of NorCal (to my knowledge).
2. When I've played in LA during the past year, I've never er seen a dealer check any money for authenticity.

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I left LA in 2002, so I can't say what they are doing now.

[Jedster]

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It would be easy to clean fake bills by selling them to other players. Cashiers, on the other hand, can probably spot fake bills pretty easily. Afterall, they handle money all day every day.

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I stopped selling chips for bills at the table because I was passed a fake bill at the Bellagio by another player. I'm 90% sure I know who it is, but I don't know for sure if they knew it was a fake and I'm not absolutely sure it was that player. Anyway, he's a pro who plays between 30-60 and 80-160 limit and in all the major tourneys, so I suspect he knew he was passing along bad money.

The weird thing is when I was buying chips from the cage, the cashier let me keep the bill even though he was supposed to confiscate it. I still turned it into a bank though, instead of passing it off to someone else.

-Jed

[tonypaladino]

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I know when I worked in LA the dealers all carried those markers to check money. I have no idea how well those work.

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Not very well.

[tonypaladino]

I'm sure the cashiers all can tell fakes. At my old job, I handled money all day long, and after a while I could tell mostly by feel if a bill was real. I'm sure cage employees are even better at it.

[somapopper]

why does him being a pro make him more likely to realize he was passing bad money?

[Jedster]

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why does him being a pro make him more likely to realize he was passing bad money?

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because he both handles more of it and values it more. not because pros are more likely to be cons. anyway, from what i know of this guy, he is more likely to knowingly pass a fake bill than a random person. this guy has definitely been around the block a few times.

[Dave Mac]

you are a moron.

[Terry]

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those markers to check money

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They are useless, just a scam sold to paranoid business operators. Same with the little UV lights you see some places use. Counterfeiters most likely test their stuff with the things anyway; wouldn’t you?

Blow the $1 next time you’re around a stationery store and buy one, then check a whole bunch of different kinds of paper. Many of them will pass.

In my twenty some years in casinos I’ve seen counterfeit bills maybe half a dozen times – whenever one comes around they put copies of it on the podiums in the pit so everybody can see it. I caught one once myself while I was dealing BJ; looked good, felt funny. My shift boss had a fit because he had to take 2 days off to go to court. He told me “Next time just give them the chips and stuff it down the slot. Let the cage people go to court.”

[Randy_Refeld]

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In my twenty some years in casinos I’ve seen counterfeit bills maybe half a dozen times – whenever one comes around they put copies of it on the podiums in the pit so everybody can see it. I caught one once myself while I was dealing BJ. My shift boss had a fit because he had to take 2 days off to go to court. He told me “Next time just give them the chips and stuff it down the slot. Let the cage people go to court.”

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I caught one once. I couldn't get security to come to the poker room so I gave it back and told them I couldnt' take it. The one I caught wasnt' a good fake at all, but the person with it clearly was not from teh US so there is a good chance they didn't know it was no good.

[canis582]

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In my twenty some years in casinos I’ve seen counterfeit bills maybe half a dozen times – whenever one comes around they put copies of it on the podiums in the pit so everybody can see it. I caught one once myself while I was dealing BJ. My shift boss had a fit because he had to take 2 days off to go to court. He told me “Next time just give them the chips and stuff it down the slot. Let the cage people go to court.”

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I caught one once. I couldn't get security to come to the poker room so I gave it back and told them I couldnt' take it. The one I caught wasnt' a good fake at all, but the person with it clearly was not from teh US so there is a good chance they didn't know it was no good.

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Were they North Korean?

[ninjaunderwear]

Old News (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266915/)

[BillD]

Story on local news tonight about C-notes being passed near Baltimore. Seems the crooks bleached some genuine fivers and used an inkjet printer to print C-notes on them. The bills passed the pen test. They also had the "thread". The watermark was still a picture of Lincoln.