jedi
10-12-2005, 02:30 PM
I think my friend played this fairly correctly, but it generated a lot of discussion at the table when he was there (I wasn't). I think the same discussion can be generated here.
Friend, we'll call him "Kevin" has K /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif in the Big Blind
UTG live straddles (read is loose agressive, loves to gamble and straddles a lot)
UTG+1 is very willing to play back at UTG.
Rest of the table is donkish.
UTG+1 cold calls, and so do 2 other players. SB calls, With the pot size at 11 SB, "Kevin" calls as well. UTG raises, UTG+1 caps, and all the other players call 2 more bets. Now there's 21 SBs in the pot with UTG going to call, so Kevin calls 2 more bets, making the pot size 24 bets. Kevin is likely to have the best hand vs. the gamblers, possibly behind an A-rag hand from the other limpers (or small blind), but still has a good multi-way hand.
Flop: J /images/graemlins/heart.gif 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (24 SB)
SB checks. Kevin checks. UTG bets out, UTG+1 calls, 2 other limpers call + small blinds calls as well. Pot is 29 SB into Kevin who has a backdoor flush, backdoor straight and 2 overcards. In the past, I might have folded this, but the pot is too damn big. Kevin calls. (30 SB to the turn)
Turn: T /images/graemlins/club.gif (15 BB)
Kevin checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets. 1 guy folds, 1 guy calls, SB folds. Now there are 17 BB in the pot. Kevin now has OESD with 6 outs to the nuts, and 2 more outs that are possibly good, plus 2 overcards. Kevin calls and the UTG maniac folds
River A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif (18 BB)
Bingo, Bango, Bongo! Showtunes going off in Kevin's head.
He checks. UTG+1 bets, remaining other player calls, Kevin check-raises. UTG+1 asks if he has "KQ", Kevin says "Yeah." UTG+1 re-raises. Other guy folds. Kevin 4-bets and UTG+1 calls. (27 BB total)
Kevin shows his runner-runner straight, UTG+1 throws his set of Tens at the dealer and the table proceeds to talk about how much of a luckbox Kevin is for the rest of the evening.
Standard? Boring? Too loose?
A couple of years ago, I might have folded this on the flop with nothign more than overcards and backdoor possiblities, but after reading SSH and given the maniacal reads of UTG and UTG+1, Kevin played the hand the same way I would have played it now. Is this misapplied, or was this okay?
Friend, we'll call him "Kevin" has K /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif in the Big Blind
UTG live straddles (read is loose agressive, loves to gamble and straddles a lot)
UTG+1 is very willing to play back at UTG.
Rest of the table is donkish.
UTG+1 cold calls, and so do 2 other players. SB calls, With the pot size at 11 SB, "Kevin" calls as well. UTG raises, UTG+1 caps, and all the other players call 2 more bets. Now there's 21 SBs in the pot with UTG going to call, so Kevin calls 2 more bets, making the pot size 24 bets. Kevin is likely to have the best hand vs. the gamblers, possibly behind an A-rag hand from the other limpers (or small blind), but still has a good multi-way hand.
Flop: J /images/graemlins/heart.gif 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (24 SB)
SB checks. Kevin checks. UTG bets out, UTG+1 calls, 2 other limpers call + small blinds calls as well. Pot is 29 SB into Kevin who has a backdoor flush, backdoor straight and 2 overcards. In the past, I might have folded this, but the pot is too damn big. Kevin calls. (30 SB to the turn)
Turn: T /images/graemlins/club.gif (15 BB)
Kevin checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets. 1 guy folds, 1 guy calls, SB folds. Now there are 17 BB in the pot. Kevin now has OESD with 6 outs to the nuts, and 2 more outs that are possibly good, plus 2 overcards. Kevin calls and the UTG maniac folds
River A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif (18 BB)
Bingo, Bango, Bongo! Showtunes going off in Kevin's head.
He checks. UTG+1 bets, remaining other player calls, Kevin check-raises. UTG+1 asks if he has "KQ", Kevin says "Yeah." UTG+1 re-raises. Other guy folds. Kevin 4-bets and UTG+1 calls. (27 BB total)
Kevin shows his runner-runner straight, UTG+1 throws his set of Tens at the dealer and the table proceeds to talk about how much of a luckbox Kevin is for the rest of the evening.
Standard? Boring? Too loose?
A couple of years ago, I might have folded this on the flop with nothign more than overcards and backdoor possiblities, but after reading SSH and given the maniacal reads of UTG and UTG+1, Kevin played the hand the same way I would have played it now. Is this misapplied, or was this okay?