$22 Do I have to fold? I don't want to.

[ebaudry]

My preflop raise failed to thin the field.

I decided not to make a continuation bet here because I felt a 150-180 or larger bet would, if called, make an irresistably large pot on the Turn. And there were just too many players behind me.

It seemed fairly certain that calling the flop bet was going to leave me pot committed. I seem to get way more 8-10th place finishes than I should, and I imagine hands like this could be a factor.

I think it would be a relatively easy fold if the flop bet hadn't come from the short-stack. In a way, I didn't know much what to make of the two calls he got, but they seemed to signify at least some sort of strength.

What would you do?

***** Hand History for Game 2864097889 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16524405 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, October 12, 01:10:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67597 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: dannyaab4 ( $355 )
Seat 2: beastman3211 ( $760 )
Seat 3: sirsneifs ( $1055 )
Seat 4: madvegas ( $675 )
Seat 5: tee01 ( $1635 )
Seat 6: nuss4 ( $825 )
Seat 7: MamaRachel ( $1145 )
Seat 9: ebaudry ( $775 )
Seat 10: Kevbo11111 ( $775 )
Trny:16524405 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ebaudry [ As Qh ]
ebaudry raises [60].
Kevbo11111 folds.
dannyaab4 calls [60].
beastman3211 folds.
sirsneifs calls [60].
madvegas folds.
tee01 folds.
nuss4 calls [50].
MamaRachel calls [45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Kd, Ad ]
nuss4 checks.
MamaRachel checks.
ebaudry checks.
dannyaab4 is all-In [295]
sirsneifs calls [295].
nuss4 folds.
MamaRachel calls [295].
ebaudry ???

Folds and waits for a better spot to put his stack at risk. I would hope to see an AK and possibly some diamonds from the callers, so why risk it on a situation when you're likely behind?

[psyduck]

wtf? you have TPTK, what's the problem? Were you going for a check-raise or what?

you do also have a gutshot you know. I push.

This is why I prefer limp this hand on level one from UTG. You can't thin the field in a 22 with a 60 chip raise. Now you are out of position in a 5 handed big pot. I fold this one with that action, you are clearly behind and have enough chips to continue.

clearly behind....pardon my french, but no f'n way are you CLEARLY behind. Yes, you may be, but you also might be leading. Shorty could have anything, one caller is on a flush draw, and the other might have a lower ace. With these pot odds, and a chance to build a giant stack, its gotta be a push!

[SCfuji]

to be honest i usually just push this on the flop.

[The Don]

Clear fold... there is just no way your hand is best here and you are drawing to a split pot in all likelihood.

[splashpot]

Raising to 60 almost never thins the field. Usually, if they were going to call 15, they'll call 60. This is why I'd limp AQ EP level 1. I lead the flop and probably call if there is one raise behind me. The multiple callers makes it more difficult. If it were just one, I'd put him on a weak ace, king, flush draw, or gunshot draw. But with that many callers, it looks too dangerous to continue.

[Cactus Jack]

[ QUOTE ]
clearly behind....pardon my french, but no f'n way are you CLEARLY behind. Yes, you may be, but you also might be leading. Shorty could have anything, one caller is on a flush draw, and the other might have a lower ace. With these pot odds, and a chance to build a giant stack, its gotta be a push!

[/ QUOTE ]

Save this thread. A month from now, instead of posting "Why do I suck?", you can just reread this and answer the question for yourself. Assuming you still have enough money to be playing a month from now.

[schwza]

i like your line: fold to many pushes, call a single push.

[Insty]

Fold preflop.
It's early, you're out of position, you cannot sensibly raise enough to thin the field.

Fold the Flop.
It's just not worth going broke here.

Call me weak-tight.

[SCfuji]

doesnt a Q kicker play against a 2-T kicker?

the shortstack could have anything and the guy that just called his all-in could have a pretty wide range, imo. i dont see why people are giving up on this pot?

[ QUOTE ]
This is why I prefer limp this hand on level one from UTG. You can't thin the field in a 22 with a 60 chip raise. Now you are out of position in a 5 handed big pot. I fold this one with that action, you are clearly behind and have enough chips to continue.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like this line...no need to raise with such a hand UTG. I would limp and see what happened. with that flop, I would lay this down and look for a better spot.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
clearly behind....pardon my french, but no f'n way are you CLEARLY behind. Yes, you may be, but you also might be leading. Shorty could have anything, one caller is on a flush draw, and the other might have a lower ace. With these pot odds, and a chance to build a giant stack, its gotta be a push!

[/ QUOTE ]

Save this thread. A month from now, instead of posting "Why do I suck?", you can just reread this and answer the question for yourself. Assuming you still have enough money to be playing a month from now.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL! Glad you chimed in and let me know i wasnt crazy for thinking this answer was a joke!

[playtitleist]

[ QUOTE ]
Fold preflop.
It's early, you're out of position, you cannot sensibly raise enough to thin the field.

Fold the Flop.
It's just not worth going broke here.

Call me correct.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

[Uppercut]

[ QUOTE ]
Fold preflop.
It's early, you're out of position, you cannot sensibly raise enough to thin the field.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was wondering when someone would mention this. I fold AQo in EP at level 1 approximately 100% of the time.

[Nicholasp27]

aqo in early position on level 1?

fold pf
if ur gonna play it, limp

if u did raise and find urself in this position, fold to the push/callers

[ravensfan]

FOLD
It's L1, and they're betting into you. Could be AJ, AK, JK, Q10, JJ, etc... Why risk your tourney that easily?

[chadsworth]

Push the flop the pot is huge, and if your behind you have a redrsw for the staight, but now that your on the turn my decision doesn't change, the shorty could have a huge range here and most of the time the callers is on the draw, I think your ahead here. collect those chips