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Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 01:10 AM
Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/history_of_violence/) gave this 88%. I can't believe it.

When this movie wasn't painstakingly boring (some of the worst writing I've heard) it was some of the best unintentional humor I've seen in a while.

Anyone disagree with this?

Make you sure let people know in your post title if you're posting a spoiler, cause some of the spoilers were the funniest parts.

Was that a spoiler?

tdarko
10-12-2005, 01:13 AM
search function?

Boris
10-12-2005, 01:32 AM
no you hit the nail on the head. the movie sucked. My theory on the high marks from the "critics" is that Cronenberg struck a deal the elite of the gay nation. basically, after Dead Ringers, his movies have sucked really badly. But Cronenberg was desperate to make money and stay relevent in the Hollywood scene. Since he knows that there is a vanguard of the Gay Elite that pretty much controls our pop culture tastes, he was like hey, let's make a deal. And the Vanguard was like "OK. we never get to see any homoerotic scenes in regular movies. you put in some sexy stuff for us in each of your movies and we will guarantee box office success." So that's what Cronenberg did. After 1990, he made 3 movies that sucked but were critically acclaimed and did well at the box office. The movies were Crash, Naked Lunch and History of Violence. All three of the movies have sex scenes that are really hot, IF YOU ARE GAY!

So anyways, that's why the movie got such awesome reviews even though it obviously sucks.

istewart
10-12-2005, 01:41 AM
IMO, it did not suck.

But, once William Hurt entered the movie it did suck. WTF was that? That entire scene either flew 10 stories over my head or was horribly out of place.

TheBlueMonster
10-12-2005, 01:43 AM
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IMO, it did not suck.

But, once William Hurt entered the movie it did suck. WTF was that? That entire scene either flew 10 stories over my head or was horribly out of place.

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I agree with the weakness of the Hurt scene, but I thought it was rather funny

Boris
10-12-2005, 01:43 AM
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IMO, it did not suck.


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Well, I think you've been outed. congrats.

InchoateHand
10-12-2005, 01:45 AM
I think you are missing the point of the movie.

Where's Skip?

Voltron87
10-12-2005, 01:47 AM
whats this movie about? and should i see it?

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 01:57 AM
Crash. Another movie that I felt was so, so, so close to being really great and just failed miserably in the writing.

The concept of this movie was clutch, but then I feel like the writer is so keen on building suspense, that nothing happens, and if you argue that it does, by that point you don't even care anymore.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 01:58 AM
I was able to get the whole theatre laughing at the unintentionally funny parts of the William Hurt scene.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 01:59 AM
I don't understand what's "gay" about this movie, though. Did you see the same 2 soft-core porn scenes that I did?

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 01:59 AM
Are you going to keep me in suspense?

istewart
10-12-2005, 02:02 AM
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I was able to get the whole theatre laughing at the unintentionally funny parts of the William Hurt scene.

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Well in my theater everyone was cracking up when Hurt was saying "HOW COULD YOU [censored] THAT UP?"

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 02:10 AM
I'm not saying the intentionally funny parts were not funny.

Like, here's an example, when Viggo is explaining his two "personalities" he said he "killed Joey in the desert." I thought this was hilarious (although, moreso after the movie was over).

Actually, no, that was a bad example.

The part I laughed at the hardest was when William Hurt actually got shot. It was so overdone and such a poor climax that I was breathless in laughter.

Boris
10-12-2005, 02:14 AM
OK. Let me explain.

1. Maria Bellow - her face is sweet but once you see her naked you realize she is below average by Hollywood standards and only slightly above average for real life standards. Cronenberg is saying "see, chicks might look nice but really they're not all they're cracked up to be."

2. the second sex scene where Mortenson nails Bellow on the stairs. Not only are hard wooden stairs the absolutely most unsexy, uncomfortable, most unrealistic place to have sex, the only skin in this scene is Mortenson's pale white ass pumping up and down. Gag. But if you were gay you probably liked this scene. Here Cronenberg is saying "see hetero sex is really uncomfortable. Get a load of Viggo's ass." Sorry but this just didn't do it for me.

Boris
10-12-2005, 02:15 AM
The funniest part of the movie is where Viggo is explaining to his son that violence is wrong. Then he slaps the [censored] out of him. lol.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 02:21 AM
Haha. Yeah. How about when he the d-bag kid hits a homerun and is so sure of himself that he... starts walking towards home plate?

Then gets infuriated that the son caught the ball, like he made some really amazing play and showed the d-bag kid up, when he didn't even have to move.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 02:22 AM
I thought Maria Bello was beautiful, but I digress. I completely agree with your second interpretation now that I think about it. Well, not completely agree, but I definitely don't disagree.

Boris
10-12-2005, 02:24 AM
oh yea. that part sucked. I mean there are a million reasons you might get picked on in highschool. catching a fly ball in gym class is not one of them. In fact it almost assuredly makes you less likely to get picked on. give me a friggin break.

istewart
10-12-2005, 02:25 AM
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The funniest part of the movie is where the guy Viggo pwned is on the ground with half a nose left.

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JaBlue
10-12-2005, 02:26 AM
it was still awesome when the kid beat the [censored] out of the other dude with the ridiculous hair cut. Also I didn't quite get the second sex scene. How come that never happened to me before?

Boris
10-12-2005, 02:26 AM
yea that was the best scene in the movie, except for maybe the opening scene.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 02:27 AM
What? Where you start chasing after a girl, choke her, and make passionate love to her on hard, wooden stairs?

Yeah, I wish that would happen to me.

Chaostracize
10-12-2005, 02:28 AM
The opening scene could have been good if that girl didn't come out and start whimpering for 5 minutes straight. I wish he would have shot her in the face so much sooner. Why would he even talk to her and calm her down to begin with. YARGH.