pheasant tail (no 18)
10-11-2005, 03:52 PM
Everyone seems that the sidebets will break the player pool to some extent. While I agree that bad gamblers will always loose in the long run, I am not so sure that these bets will hurt the games. In fact, from my B&M experience, it seems that they can help.
I agree that to a winning player making these bets is dumb. To leave a game where you have an overlay to play a game that is -EV is not smart. But for many players, these games (and I don't know what the house take in all of them are) will likely not be as -EV as sitting at the poker tables.
It always cracks me up when I hear an "enlightened" yet terrible poker player that is 60% sure to go home a significant loser on any given night lecture about how house edge cannot be overcome in BJ. They do not realize that they are giving up way more edge at poker.
I have in B&M play seen many players who were almost busted out of a game take a walk in the pit and come back w/ a few blacks and bought a few more stacks. By taking maybe the last $50 that they had budgeted for their daily a$$whipping and putting it on black a few times, they have a much better chance of putting an extra $3-$4oo in the poker game than they do to work their way back to even.
Think of all the losing 2/4 players who will make a big score and drop it on the 30/60 tables because they want to know what it is like to sit w/ the big boys.
To be sure, it adds some temptation and a few good players who are compulsive will get busted but most uncontrolled degenerates will lose (have lost) it all anyway.
I just don't think it is so bad. Discuss.
PT
I agree that to a winning player making these bets is dumb. To leave a game where you have an overlay to play a game that is -EV is not smart. But for many players, these games (and I don't know what the house take in all of them are) will likely not be as -EV as sitting at the poker tables.
It always cracks me up when I hear an "enlightened" yet terrible poker player that is 60% sure to go home a significant loser on any given night lecture about how house edge cannot be overcome in BJ. They do not realize that they are giving up way more edge at poker.
I have in B&M play seen many players who were almost busted out of a game take a walk in the pit and come back w/ a few blacks and bought a few more stacks. By taking maybe the last $50 that they had budgeted for their daily a$$whipping and putting it on black a few times, they have a much better chance of putting an extra $3-$4oo in the poker game than they do to work their way back to even.
Think of all the losing 2/4 players who will make a big score and drop it on the 30/60 tables because they want to know what it is like to sit w/ the big boys.
To be sure, it adds some temptation and a few good players who are compulsive will get busted but most uncontrolled degenerates will lose (have lost) it all anyway.
I just don't think it is so bad. Discuss.
PT