Playing 500 SNG's to measure myself? How many tables? Advice?

[Toddy]

Hi, I've been on Stars for about a year. I play in everything from $6 SNGs to the occasional $200 SNG. I want to play 500 $6 SNGs and I'm curious as to what you think of the following:

>How many tables should i play (4 Max)
>What should I shoot for on my ROI?
>What would a good % be to be ITM?

I want to exceed my goals and then I'll move up to a $10 SNG and hopefully play in 500 of them.

[downtown]

Edit: I'm an idiot, didn't see you were on Stars. So... Add a table when you feel comfortable until you have 4. Don't worry about your numbers at first, worry that you're playing correctly. Post hands, join in discussions, etc.

[Hornacek]

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Here's what everyone is about to tell you: Move to the 11s sooner rather than later. Definitely sooner than 500. The rake is too high at the 6s.

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He's playing on Stars. It's 5+.5 on stars, not 5+1.

[downtown]

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Here's what everyone is about to tell you: Move to the 11s sooner rather than later. Definitely sooner than 500. The rake is too high at the 6s.

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He's playing on Stars. It's 5+.5 on stars, not 5+1.

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Reading comprehension, it's important.

[Freudian]

>How many tables should i play (4 Max) As many as you are comfortable with.
>What should I shoot for on my ROI? Don't shoot for anything. Just play and see where you end up. That is the whole point of this anyway. If it is not, it should be.
>What would a good % be to be ITM? Same answer as above.

20-25% ROI would be quite decent,

shoot for 40% itm

If you have the bankroll, just start with the $11s. Competition is almost as weak, and still very beatable. And definitely 4 table

-Grant

[Toddy]

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Here's what everyone is about to tell you: Move to the 11s sooner rather than later. Definitely sooner than 500. The rake is too high at the 6s.

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He's playing on Stars. It's 5+.5 on stars, not 5+1.

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Reading comprehension, it's important.

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Wait. I have no problem playing the $11's if its better for the rake. I only play 90% of the time I play in $55, and $25's but i was gonna downgrade for this "project". What do you think is better?

[Toddy]

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>How many tables should i play (4 Max) As many as you are comfortable with.
>What should I shoot for on my ROI? Don't shoot for anything. Just play and see where you end up. That is the whole point of this anyway. If it is not, it should be.
>What would a good % be to be ITM? Same answer as above.

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Okay thanks..

[downtown]

No it's the same for the rake (I missed that you were playing at Stars at first, if it were Party it would be more), but if the competition is near equally soft and you find you are winning, moving up is of course always a good option.

[Toddy]

Also, would u guys recommend staying away from turbos?

[Toddy]

Tonight I'll play in about 20 after the wife goes to bed and hopefully I'll have a successful start to the experiment. I'm not going to play any MTT's for now. I'll update tomorrow.

[JudoGirl]

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Also, would u guys recommend staying away from turbos?

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There is no reason to stay away from turbos unless you are uncomfortable with them. The blinds (usually) rise slower in Stars' turbos than they do in Party's normal "9-hand-per-level" games.

What kind of ROI have you achieved in the SNGs you've already played? That would seem to be an important factor in setting any future ROI goals.

If you have experience in SNGs up to $215, why drop all the way back down to $5.50 for your experiment? If you're comfortable in the 11s or 22s (or 16 or 27 turbos) and your bankroll can handle it, you ought to start higher. (If you're not comfortable at those levels, what were you doing in the 215s?)

[splashpot]

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Also, would u guys recommend staying away from turbos?

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I like the turbos. More $/hr. Better rake too.

[Rick Diesel]

That's funny, I started a similar experiment yesterday. I usually one-table the 55s, but I dropped to the 6.50 turbos on Stars and am 6-tabling. So far I have 18 SNGs, with a ridiculous result of 5-1sts, 2-2nds, and 6-3rds, for an ITM of 72% and ROI of 98%. Most of this was due to cashing in all 6 tourneys during my last set.

This is obviously impossible to maintain, however I think that due to the terrible nature of the players at this level, it is possible to have an ITM of close to 50% and assuming an even distribution of top 3 finishes, an ROI of close to 40%.

i plan to evaluate after 200 SNGs and see where I am at, and then hopefully move up to the $16 SNGs. I will also update.

Rick Diesel

[pokerlaw]

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however I think that due to the terrible nature of the players at this level, it is possible to have an ITM of close to 50% and assuming an even distribution of top 3 finishes, an ROI of close to 40%.


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assuming that assumption is correct - do you have a large size over the $20s-$55s to compare to what you will get from playing a few hundred in the lower buyin games?

I would be very interested to hear figures from players who have large samples of higher ($22-$55) level buyins ono Stars.

thx.

[Toddy]

Played 3 $6.50 SNG's (turbo)

2 wins (1 i came back from 100 chips after getting sucked out)
1 2nd.

I know it won't be this easy, but its a great start.

[Shillx]

You will learn nothing by playing 500 SNGs. If you get a sample ROI of say 10%, your true ROI will be somewhere between -4% and 24% (w/ 95% confidence).