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Karak567
10-11-2005, 01:36 PM
This is what he sent me (and everyone else that uses him as an affiliate):

"Up.. Down.. Up.. Down.. What can I say? Party poker JUST had a meeting to discuss rakeback and whether to allow us to do it. I had a DONE DEAL this morning.. I mean it was DONE and I was creating codes for everyone.. We were ready to switch over to the new site and everything.

I then get a phone call 5 mins before sending out codes to everyone STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP dont send out codes.

I say what? Well the heads at party poker are having a meeting... we'll call you within an hour to tell you what the result was.

Phone rings 5 mins ago.. Sorry, it appears Party is reversing its course and NOT allowing rakeback of any kind. They will give the final information tomorrow, but it appears rakeback at party poker is OFFICIALLY DEAD.

If I hear anything, you'll be the first to know.. "

Hornacek
10-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Got the same one... wow we have the same affiliate.

damn it... no way in hell I'm playing at Party with no RB. Hopefully if enough people do this they will learn from their mistakes. Time to learn how to play turbos on Stars...

BeerMoney
10-11-2005, 01:39 PM
That sucks..

phillydilly
10-11-2005, 01:39 PM
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rakeback at party poker is OFFICIALLY DEAD.


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cant say i'm one bit surprised

Karak567
10-11-2005, 01:40 PM
I IM'd him and he said "they figure that players will switch back to them rakeback or not"

CatfishKing
10-11-2005, 01:43 PM
I have the same affiliate, looks like RB is over

10-11-2005, 01:51 PM
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I IM'd him and he said "they figure that players will switch back to them rakeback or not"

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well its true, isn't it? If only one of them goons over there wouldve surfed two plus two a bit for some inventory on the matter, they would've seen everybody is just sitting on their money waiting to transfer it back to party. Only thing that has been holding players back, is to see wether there was a good deal to be made by waiting it out, not about wether they should go back to party or another site.

Hell for all we know, the naysayers swung the yaysayers with some printouts of the talk at this forum. Now if that were true, that would be some kick-in-your-balls irony wouldn't it /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

ps. this norb, is costing me, a 3/6 player, a LOT OF income. That really really sux /images/graemlins/frown.gif

sthief09
10-11-2005, 01:51 PM
who is this affiliate out of curiosity

rustyboy
10-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Same affiliate also. What to do...?

scrapperdog
10-11-2005, 01:56 PM
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Hell for all we know, the naysayers swung the yaysayers with some printouts of the talk at this forum. Now if that were true, that would be some kick-in-your-balls irony wouldn't it /images/graemlins/smirk.gif


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Doubtful. If party was interested in giving rakeback they would not have first killed it on their site then killed the skins that offer it. It is pretty obvious they never have wanted to do it and were probably gonna pull a bait and switch on us if they decided to do it, say 4 months from now. That being said I am still holding out hope.

10-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Open an account on Stars.

Freudian
10-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. They seem intent on letting someone else grab the title of #1 poker room.

Here they created a perfect opportunity to scoop up a huge amount of high volume players (and they will still get some of them) by offering rakeback. Now every player will start to think about if the fish population is worth more to them than 40% rakeback on Prima, rakeback on UB, lower rake on Pokerstars (even zero rake if you have saved up a bunch of bonuses and play tournaments) etc. And if Party think their existing player population makes them guaranteed to come up on top of these calculations, they are dead wrong. It will be for many players more profitable to play on other networks.

I will take the time to do a real test of where my poker game brings me the most $/h. And it is pretty likely Party will not come on top there and they will lose thousands of dollars each months for failing to do the obvious thing.

grinin
10-11-2005, 01:58 PM
I can't really see why Party would just now be having this meeting.

It is pretty clear that Saturday's shakeup was designed to cut the MTT's receiving RB from the Party fishpool. Wouldn't they have already discussed the inevitable rush back to Party and how they would be handling it?

This just doesn't make sense. Granted, a lot of things Party does do not make sense.

B Dids
10-11-2005, 01:58 PM
Play in what will still be the best games online without rakeback?

I'm not putting much stock in this until I hear from some of the more trusted and vocal affls though.

scrapperdog
10-11-2005, 02:00 PM
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I can't really see why Party would just now be having this meeting.

It is pretty clear that Saturday's shakeup was designed to cut the MTT's receiving RB from the Party fishpool. Wouldn't they have already discussed the inevitable rush back to Party and how they would be handling it?

This just doesn't make sense. Granted, a lot of things Party does do not make sense.

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Exactly. Does not make sense. They decided what they are gonna do about this before pulling the skins.

oscark
10-11-2005, 02:03 PM
No, according to other sources who posted in the Zoo, Saturday's move had little to do with that. Instead, it was primarily driven by the addition of the Casino to the platform.

Although I am certainly hoping we get rakeback, I just can't see what their motivation for doing so would be.

flair1239
10-11-2005, 02:08 PM
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Play in what will still be the best games online without rakeback?


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The quality of Party's games as compared to other sites is overrated.

You can basically create the same thing by playing a variety of other websites. Many of which offer rakeback and other large incentives.

Perhaps for an 8-12 tabler Party is a necessity. But a 4-6 tabler who is willing to do some exploring, Not playing on Party is not a major hardship.

jph0424
10-11-2005, 02:10 PM
I also have the same affiliate.The screen name that transferred money to my account on Empire was El Diablo. This may or may not be it though.

Hornacek
10-11-2005, 02:14 PM
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I also have the same affiliate.The screen name that transferred money to my account on Empire was El Diablo. This may or may not be it though.

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same

jkkkk
10-11-2005, 02:15 PM
I have the same guy, this is just so god damn depressing.

obsidian
10-11-2005, 02:24 PM
Heh, same affiliate..oh well

Edit: just got this:

"Party poker asked me to not say rakeback was 100% dead yet until the official word tomorrow.. There is a small glimmer of hope, so i guess dont burn down the site yet.

Will update you when i have more news"

ipp147
10-11-2005, 02:25 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me. They seem intent on letting someone else grab the title of #1 poker room.


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I haven't commented much on any of these threads but I would say that people are vastly underestimating both the size of the multi-tabling pro tags and their importance to the party network.

I presume it is as we see them on here all day but if you looked at them in terms of Party's revenues and target market we/they are a very small group.

obsidian
10-11-2005, 02:27 PM
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Play in what will still be the best games online without rakeback?


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The quality of Party's games as compared to other sites is overrated.

You can basically create the same thing by playing a variety of other websites. Many of which offer rakeback and other large incentives.

Perhaps for an 8-12 tabler Party is a necessity. But a 4-6 tabler who is willing to do some exploring, Not playing on Party is not a major hardship.

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I've begun to notice this as well. If party thinks they have a monopoly on the fish they are mistaken.

10-11-2005, 02:27 PM
Hi guys,

since the thread is mostly about our program.. I'll answer any questions you have.

I believe that rakeback is truly dead at party poker. I think thier intention is to start offering a rewards program similiar to rakeback but im not sure. You'll notice that other sites like switchtoparty.com are now not offering anymore so there is indeed something major going on.

I'll know more first thing in the morning, i had about 10 phone calls today with party and i was literally 5 mins from emailing everyone thier codes.

Good luck

10-11-2005, 02:40 PM
Suckage.

Perseus
10-11-2005, 02:47 PM
They probably would have done it if there was 65k people playing on their site last night without any rakeback.

I mean, what incentive could they possibly have to give it? If they had say 40k people playing, I'm pretty sure it would have happened

Python49
10-11-2005, 02:49 PM
Party: 1
Everyone else: 0

10-11-2005, 02:53 PM
Very very smart move..

They know people will switch back to party poker if 85% of the players are there.. Eventually you'll have almost all the players switching back and you wont even have to give the affiliates a cut.

Brilliant, now the question is, what do Empire & Eurobet do.

10-11-2005, 02:57 PM
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Very very smart move..

They know people will switch back to party poker if 85% of the players are there.. Eventually you'll have almost all the players switching back and you wont even have to give the affiliates a cut.

Brilliant, now the question is, what do Empire & Eurobet do.

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Send me a 100% bonus this morning that i laugh at?

aucu
10-11-2005, 02:58 PM
Man this blows, I was getting all up on the idea of returning to Party but now, I don't know.

If they would have offered even 15% they would of had me but ZERO.

They are missing a chance to really crush the competition.
Then again maybe it's better if they don't become too dominant.

GrannyMae
10-11-2005, 02:59 PM
I presume it is as we see them on here all day but if you looked at them in terms of Party's revenues and target market we/they are a very small group.

no doubt that people getting rakeback are a small percentage, maybe even statistically insignificant to the total party population.

however, the inverse is true here in the 2+2 community. i would guess the percentage of regular party players NOT getting rakeback at 2+2 is smaller than those that are.

therefore, this is a huge issue to so many people here that this panic, rush to change affiliates, sky is falling mentality is not only to be expected, but is a real issue to many posters earn.

i can't imagine going from an enormous rakeback each month to zero. this is something that many 'pros' use to pay their base bills each month. to those high volume players, this is the same as losing a full time job.

however, IMHO, when party seperated from the skins, this was their way of guaranteeing that the future revenues will not be stolen by the skins they licensed.

party has a responsibility to shareholders only now. this will hurt them short term, but the party marketing machine will now get to keep all the rewards of their labor. gone are the days that party spends millions on advertisement just to lose the player to a skin once the player becomes "informed". this is a self-preservation move on their part.

there are lots of BIG affiliates these days and this ensuing panic of these mega-affiliates calling them is likely the reason the policy seems to be bending, shifting, and bending back by the hour.

the best thing to do is show restraint and WAIT. 3 days of playing elsewhere or playing without rakeback is not the end of the world. be smart and don't panic.

everyone knows i've never really offered rakeback, so i can use myself as an example. the example is that "if i decided to offer rakeback to my sign-ups tomorrow, there is no way party would ever need to know."

find a reward program, or find someone trustworthy. but, wait till all the facts are clear.

krazyace5
10-11-2005, 03:00 PM
They woulda had me at 25%... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Freudian
10-11-2005, 03:00 PM
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They probably would have done it if there was 65k people playing on their site last night without any rakeback.

I mean, what incentive could they possibly have to give it? If they had say 40k people playing, I'm pretty sure it would have happened

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The incentive being that they get more high volume players playing at their site.

Let's look at one extreme. Every single multitabling TAG previously on rakeback on Empire, Multipoker, Eurobet decide to play on Party (the "follow the fish" school of thought) wihtout rakeback. But wait. Now we have the old network drained of TAGs. And I have rakeback there. I better go back and thereby increase the money I earn. And I will not be the only one. And some of the non-rakeback Party players will figure out they earn much more with rakeback on Prima, Crypto, UB, Fulltilt etc, or perhaps doing bonuses on other smaller networks. So they will also dump the rakeback-free Party. Eventually we will reach an equilibrium, and it will not be reached at the highest player volume for PartyPoker.

Party breaking free from the other sites that stole their customers and then not try to secure the play of high volume players would utterly stupid of them. But since the jury is still out on the sanity and business sense of Partypoker, I guess anything is possible.

Inthacup
10-11-2005, 03:01 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Party offered an alternative to rakeback through some sort of internal offer.

Cup

MaxPower
10-11-2005, 03:38 PM
I am already playing fewer tables at the Party network. I am not doing this to punish Party. Its just that there are better games on other sites and those sites are offering bonuses or rakeback, so I will earn more.

My decision to play at a site is based on the value of playing that game (expectation plus incentives) Party has just taken away an incentive to play on their site.

They have a right to do what they want and I have the choice as to whether I will play on the site.

Whether this proves to be a good move for Party remains to be seen. It depends on what other poker sites do in reaction to this and whether Party offers a good Comp system for high volume customers.

In the short term it will help revenues. Still seperating the skins has nothing to change Party's basic problem right now - acquiring new customers. What they did over the weekend will temporalily help them create more revenue out of existing customers, but customer growth is still a problem for them.

Vetstadium
10-11-2005, 03:39 PM
Guess I am same affiliate too but received another email saying there is a glimmer of hope.

popeye18
10-11-2005, 03:40 PM
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Party breaking free from the other sites that stole their customers and then not try to secure the play of high volume players would utterly stupid of them.

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I honestly think we(multitabling tags) are overestimating our value to party right now. They are putting in blackjack and sidebets, and soon there might be more casino games. They are catering to fish and gamblers. Tags just take money out of a system that if we werent involved, would just end up going into party's hands.

CardSharpCook
10-11-2005, 03:45 PM
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They had me at hello ... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Come on, where else can you play 10 tables at any limit you want? (30/60 and below)

SinCityGuy
10-11-2005, 03:51 PM
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They are missing a chance to really crush the competition.

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It's funny how many people actually believe this.

When Barry Switzer was winning National Championships at Oklahoma, he would tell a prospective 5-star recruit, "Son, if you come to Oklahoma, you can help us win a National Championship. If you don't come to Oklahoma, you can watch us win a National Championship."

flair1239
10-11-2005, 03:52 PM
This is a stupid self-serving idea...But it would seem to solve the problem from here on in:

Rakeback Amenesty week: Any player with an existing account can convert, with the provision that they meet a cetain MGR per month. But after that it is done.

This would seem like it would solve Party's problem, by allowing the rakeback refugees to come home. But also permanently wean PArty away from a rakeback driven form of Marketing.

It would aslo work wonderful, for everyone here. (Except of course for the non-rakeback affiliates who would lose their "smart" customers.)

BigBlind
10-11-2005, 03:53 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Party offered an alternative to rakeback through some sort of internal offer.

Cup

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I would. They seem to do everything in their power NOT to regain the players they lost to the skins. Party currently has a golden opportunity to get all those players back home in one big swoop but seems to drop the ball once again.

Maybe Party takes the "No to Rakeback"-stance just to see how many former players will return anyway. I for one will not fall for this dirty little trick no matter how juicy the games may be. Not a chance. I hope other players don't fall for this trick either.

The non-rakeback affiliate site that once made an unsuspecting newbie (me) click their link to Party some 3.5 years ago will NOT get my $3K comission every month, doing nothing, while I work my ass off at the tables. Fat chance.

There are perfectly good tables to multitable at other sides (with or without rakeback) for a couple of weeks/months until Partys executives gets sober again.

hobbsmann
10-11-2005, 03:54 PM
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who is this affiliate out of curiosity

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I have this affiliate too and it's through rakeupdate.com

10-11-2005, 03:54 PM
We'll know 1000% sure tomorrow.. Everyone went home for the day i believe its almost 7 pm where they are

SinCityGuy
10-11-2005, 03:55 PM
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They seem to do everything in their power NOT to regain the players they lost to the skins.

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They don't have to. Have you seen the player counts on Party the pasts couple of days? By the end of the week it will be over 70,000 again.

10-11-2005, 03:56 PM
Stars it is then. 25% player appreciation bonus right now.

SomethingClever
10-11-2005, 03:58 PM
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The quality of Party's games as compared to other sites is overrated.

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BigBlind
10-11-2005, 04:00 PM
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They seem to do everything in their power NOT to regain the players they lost to the skins.

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They don't have to. Have you seen the player counts on Party the pasts couple of days? By the end of the week it will be over 70,000 again.

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Yup. That's what the shills constantly say and want us to believe.

10-11-2005, 04:12 PM
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They seem to do everything in their power NOT to regain the players they lost to the skins.

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They don't have to. Have you seen the player counts on Party the pasts couple of days? By the end of the week it will be over 70,000 again.

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I think it will stay high for a few more days because people are still clearing their bonuses. After that, who knows? I don't think it will become a ghost town, but I could see the numbers dropping. After being rudely removed from the teat of rakeback, it's a good time for some of us to explore other places. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

bpb
10-11-2005, 04:24 PM
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Yup. That's what the shills constantly say and want us to believe.

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Yes, because Party Poker needs shills to promote its product.

I nominate this for stupidest post of the day.

BigBlind
10-11-2005, 04:32 PM
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Yup. That's what the shills constantly say and want us to believe.

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Yes, because Party Poker needs shills to promote its product.

I nominate this for stupidest post of the day.

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If you believe shills don't frequent pokerforums I nominate you the most naive person of the year.

scrapperdog
10-11-2005, 04:34 PM
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We'll know 1000% sure tomorrow.. Everyone went home for the day i believe its almost 7 pm where they are

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I will believe that when I see it. Not that you dont believe it, but it would not surprise me if this dragged on past tommorow.

grinin
10-11-2005, 04:36 PM
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Party poker JUST had a meeting to discuss rakeback and whether to allow us to do it [ QUOTE ]
I can't really see why Party would just now be having this meeting.

It is pretty clear that Saturday's shakeup was designed to cut the MTT's receiving RB from the Party fishpool. Wouldn't they have already discussed the inevitable rush back to Party and how they would be handling it?

This just doesn't make sense. Granted, a lot of things Party does do not make sense. [ QUOTE ]
No, according to other sources who posted in the Zoo, Saturday's move had little to do with that. Instead, it was primarily driven by the addition of the Casino to the platform.


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I don't recall reading a thread where anyone came to the conclusion that the move "was primarily driven by the addition of the Casino to the platform". Also I don't think that there is any reason why this would be the case. Party had already differentiated the platform for "Party" players and for all other skin players. There is no reason why they could not have done the side bets simply for "Party" players also.

bobbyi
10-11-2005, 04:39 PM
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I haven't commented much on any of these threads but I would say that people are vastly underestimating both the size of the multi-tabling pro tags and their importance to the party network.

I presume it is as we see them on here all day but if you looked at them in terms of Party's revenues and target market we/they are a very small group.

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In this business, actions speak much louder than words. The fact that one of the first thing Party did after cutting off the skins was allowing ten-tabling makes it pretty clear that they don't want to lose this market segment.

vilemerchant
10-11-2005, 04:45 PM
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The non-rakeback affiliate site that once made an unsuspecting newbie (me) click their link to Party some 3.5 years ago will NOT get my $3K comission every month, doing nothing, while I work my ass off at the tables. Fat chance.


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This is a real concern for me. Honestly I can't even remember if I clicked a banner the first time I went to party or went straight to partypoker.com, but just the mere thought of some donut-puncher getting rich off my play for doing nothing really makes my stomach churn..

Pov
10-11-2005, 04:54 PM
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The non-rakeback affiliate site that once made an unsuspecting newbie (me) click their link to Party some 3.5 years ago will NOT get my $3K comission every month, doing nothing, while I work my ass off at the tables. Fat chance.


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This is a real concern for me. Honestly I can't even remember if I clicked a banner the first time I went to party or went straight to partypoker.com, but just the mere thought of some donut-puncher getting rich off my play for doing nothing really makes my stomach churn..

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Why?

_dave_
10-11-2005, 05:09 PM
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They had me at hello ... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Come on, where else can you play 10 tables at any limit you want? (30/60 and below)

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Stars? I think they do up to 11 tables now.

Enjoy!

Dave.

vilemerchant
10-11-2005, 05:11 PM
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The non-rakeback affiliate site that once made an unsuspecting newbie (me) click their link to Party some 3.5 years ago will NOT get my $3K comission every month, doing nothing, while I work my ass off at the tables. Fat chance.


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This is a real concern for me. Honestly I can't even remember if I clicked a banner the first time I went to party or went straight to partypoker.com, but just the mere thought of some donut-puncher getting rich off my play for doing nothing really makes my stomach churn..

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Why?

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Maybe I'm just mean? I'd sooner sign my girlfriend up directly at pp.com and play that way then risk making money for a fat affiliate who has nothing to do with me or my play.

I've just thought of a solution, everyone buy as many PP shares as you can afford, sign up with no affiliate and give them all your action to push up the profits! :P

jrz1972
10-11-2005, 05:22 PM
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Stars it is then. 25% player appreciation bonus right now.

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Same here.

I'm in a different market niche than most people in these forums as I'm strictly a micro-limit player. Now that rendered the skins unappealing, nixed rakeback, and started screwing around with their regular monthly reloads, I'm not sure what makes them think I'll keep playing there.

Stars has better software, a better FPP store, and generally treats its players better than Party. And anymore its microlimit games really aren't that much tougher than Party's. At my level of play, a $150 bonus is the (rough) equivalent of rakeback. I can definitely say that if Stars offered a bonus like this every month, I would make them my new "home base."

Obviously Party shouldn't be shaking in its boots over losing my meager MGR, but there are a lot of small-time recreational players like me who I'm sure are going through the same calclus that I am.

10-11-2005, 05:27 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Party offered an alternative to rakeback through some sort of internal offer.

Cup

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hmmm... like points for cash??? remember, you only have until October 31st...

Inthacup
10-11-2005, 05:28 PM
I think it's going to be different than that. They already have points for cash in place, and my understanding is that they're working on something new.

Cup

10-11-2005, 07:05 PM
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They had me at hello ... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Come on, where else can you play 10 tables at any limit you want? (30/60 and below)

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Stars? I think they do up to 11 tables now.

Enjoy!

Dave.

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Problem is that Stars only has maybe 4 games from 15/30 -30/60 going at one time. Party has 20+ of 15/30, 20/40, 30/60. And not to metion the quality of those games are outstanding.

Unless you are willing to play at 5 different sites to play 5 tables of 15/30 then Party is your best bet.

MaxPower
10-11-2005, 07:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]
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They had me at hello ... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Come on, where else can you play 10 tables at any limit you want? (30/60 and below)

[/ QUOTE ]

Stars? I think they do up to 11 tables now.

Enjoy!

Dave.

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Problem is that Stars only has maybe 4 games from 15/30 -30/60 going at one time. Party has 20+ of 15/30, 20/40, 30/60. And not to metion the quality of those games are outstanding.

Unless you are willing to play at 5 different sites to play 5 tables of 15/30 then Party is your best bet.

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You can play 4 tables at Party and 1 at Stars. If you do this long enough it will atract new players to the Stars games and the number of games on Stars will grow.

Guthrie
10-11-2005, 07:35 PM
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Open an account on Stars.

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Shhhhh!

Sniper
10-11-2005, 08:22 PM
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It would aslo work wonderful, for everyone here. (Except of course for the non-rakeback affiliates who drive the vast majority of customers to Party .)


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FYP

10-12-2005, 06:48 AM
You can play 20 tables on Caribeaan Sun Poker if you like. Works fine to me.

From one thing to another, ive seen a couple of freerolls lately. Recently this one on smartgambler.com, have anyone had any experience with them??

Tk79
10-12-2005, 06:51 AM
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You can play 20 tables on Caribeaan Sun Poker if you like. Works fine to me.

From one thing to another, ive seen a couple of freerolls lately. Recently this one on smartgambler.com, have anyone had any experience with them??

[/ QUOTE ]

Am I retarded???

10-12-2005, 07:15 AM
Excuse me?

10-12-2005, 07:57 AM
so this e-mail i got just this morning is all bs then?

"This time I have definite and good news for everyone. I just got off the
phone with my contact who is deeply affiliated with Party, and has been
working with them from day one. This is the first time I got hold of him,
the man has slept 4 hours since the bomb hit on last Saturday. I got
briefed on the recent Party situation, and what has really been happening
earlier and right now.

Within the next day or two, xyz.com (am I allowed to type this out??) will have an affiliate account
set up and will be able to offer a player reward program to
PartyPoker.com. I am planning for the reward to be around 25-28%, with 1%
of all friends that are referred.

Players can be signed up swiftly and easily, with new accounts. Players
who have an inactive Party account are easier to move. If you have a Party
account that has lots of play recently, you should still be able to get an
account. I am scheduled to get coaching on how to use the affiliate back
end later today.

Please rest easy, and wait for further information on the player reward
program. The ball is moving now."

10-12-2005, 08:18 AM
>so this e-mail i got just this morning is all bs then?

Well, my 2 cents is that he is probably off saying anything over 25%, and that line about current active accounts is probably off, but all else seems to be possible. BUT I think it was probably posted before the knowledge of Partys reward program, which would have to be decucted from the 25%, or he'd be over what he gets. He didn't mention rakeback, so I'm thinking he's probably within Partys guidelines.

I'm not too fond of unsolicited emails though/

JMO

stoxtrader
10-12-2005, 08:51 AM
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so this e-mail i got just this morning is all bs then?

"This time I have definite and good news for everyone. I just got off the
phone with my contact who is deeply affiliated with Party, and has been
working with them from day one. This is the first time I got hold of him,
the man has slept 4 hours since the bomb hit on last Saturday. I got
briefed on the recent Party situation, and what has really been happening
earlier and right now.

Within the next day or two, xyz.com (am I allowed to type this out??) will have an affiliate account
set up and will be able to offer a player reward program to
PartyPoker.com. I am planning for the reward to be around 25-28%, with 1%
of all friends that are referred.

Players can be signed up swiftly and easily, with new accounts. Players
who have an inactive Party account are easier to move. If you have a Party
account that has lots of play recently, you should still be able to get an
account. I am scheduled to get coaching on how to use the affiliate back
end later today.

Please rest easy, and wait for further information on the player reward
program. The ball is moving now."

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I agree with some of this, some details are incorrect, particularly the swiftly and easy part. and one part of it is definitely not allowed.

lorinda
10-12-2005, 09:22 AM
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I agree with some of this, some details are incorrect, particularly the swiftly and easy part. and one part of it is definitely not allowed.

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Which parts are correct and which are not? You are rapidly making yourself look very silly with all of this.

If you know something then tell us. If you know something and are not allowed to tell us, then don't tell us.

This in-between gibberish is pretty pointless.

Lori

TemetNosce
10-12-2005, 09:24 AM
Amen, sister!