View Full Version : Firm answer on the Party RakeBack issue:
Sintax
10-11-2005, 12:38 AM
Check the classifieds ads on the left
There is a highly reputable site offering 20% cashe if your rake is less than 1000 a month and 25% otherwise....
I recieved an email from said affiliate and this applies to new and existing accounts.
If you have an existing account, they will open one for you
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based on straight-forward representations with PartyPoker. The commitments that we make to you below will be implemented in conjunction with Party Poker directly. There are no "work around" solutions involved in this offer
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Guess thats solved. Perhaps the "confusion" is becuase smaller affiliates havent gotten their OK's yet and are afraid to lose out to the larger and Party's more favored affiliates? I could understand that....
siccjay
10-11-2005, 12:42 AM
One affiliate I am with has posted that they have things worked out with Party and will be able to start signing up players tomorrow, both new and existing accounts.
I got the same email from (probably) the same affiliate, but from the wording, I'm pretty sure they're just opening you a new account. I'm apparently going to have to provide a new email AND new banking details. So, umm, I have some doubts...
Weatherhead03
10-11-2005, 12:52 AM
I got the same e-mail. Hope it all works out.
It's nice to know that they bumped it up to 25%, I guess they got alot of emails about that /images/graemlins/wink.gif
pyroponic
10-11-2005, 01:04 AM
Somebody respond to this thread or start a new one if they have signed up and everything seems to be working alright. /images/graemlins/cool.gif
CardSharpCook
10-11-2005, 01:08 AM
Party poker affliates page (party poker website) (http://mis.iglobalmedia.com/affiliates/index.html)
Ok, what's this then? how can they offer 25% if affliates only get 25% from Party. DAMN IT! I just want to play poker!! I wish Party just gave rakeback directly. Why do they have to go through affliates? Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
I have it set up and everything seems to be working fine. My Roomate has as well.
pyroponic
10-11-2005, 01:16 AM
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Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
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They do? Like what, free sandwiches or something?
popeye18
10-11-2005, 01:19 AM
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I have it set up and everything seems to be working fine. My Roomate has as well.
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Were these new party acounts or did you have some already.
CardSharpCook
10-11-2005, 01:26 AM
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Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
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They do? Like what, free sandwiches or something?
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Or put money directly into your players' bank based on number of hours played at a given limit. Your choice. I took the sandwiches.
Schwartzy61
10-11-2005, 01:28 AM
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Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
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They do? Like what, free sandwiches or something?
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Or put money directly into your players' bank based on number of hours played at a given limit. Your choice. I took the sandwiches.
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mmmm...sandwiches...
KaBoom
10-11-2005, 01:43 AM
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I have it set up and everything seems to be working fine. My Roomate has as well.
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Nice. But I wonder if they let you change affiliates once and resign up then I guess you could do it again and again in the future and always get the top offer available. This would be great.
SinCityGuy
10-11-2005, 01:56 AM
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But I wonder if they let you change affiliates once and resign up then I guess you could do it again and again in the future and always get the top offer available. This would be great.
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Yes, and that's why this Party rakeback is probably going to be short lived, if it even happens at all.
It won't take long before the affiliates start undercutting each other yet again with better rates and defrauding the system with more players signing up for duplicate accounts. This is essentially what happened before, except they were using the skins to cannibalize the Party player base. Now, they'll just be cannibalizing each other's Party players. The site won't put up with it for long. They'll either turn off individual tracking again, or possibly even shut down the blatant ones.
Inthacup
10-11-2005, 02:02 AM
It won't take long before the affiliates start undercutting each other yet again with better rates and defrauding the system with more players signing up for duplicate accounts.
This is exactly what Party wants to avoid. They will be making a conscious effort to make sure it doesn't happen.
pyroponic
10-11-2005, 02:09 AM
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It won't take long before the affiliates start undercutting each other yet again with better rates and defrauding the system with more players signing up for duplicate accounts.
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One way to avoid this I think is to limit "approved" Party rakeback to reputable, established affiliates. With a limited number signed up, there'd almost be an oligopoly of sorts so there would be no need for cut-throat pricing. I don't really know how the "affiliate economy" works but i'd think Party would be relatively tight with how things are ran? From what I remember the rakeback situation on Empire on Eurobet were falling into an equilibrium of sorts, where the system working pretty well from what I remember.
Voltron87
10-11-2005, 03:11 AM
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Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
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They do? Like what, free sandwiches or something?
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actually yes, almost exactly.
theyre called comps. i dont know if youve ever been to a casino, but theyre more than very common. casinos track how much a player wagers/bets (or how much theyre going to lose basically) and then figures out how much they can give back to him in cool free [censored]. if some guy drops 1K at blackjack theyre going to give him back 200$ worth of rooms, drinks, cabs, etc because it makes him happy as a clam.
wackjob
10-11-2005, 03:19 AM
My local podunk casino with our elite 7 table cardroom comps rooms even.
pyroponic
10-11-2005, 03:23 AM
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Cardrooms all over the country have rakeback type programs, why don't these sites?
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They do? Like what, free sandwiches or something?
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actually yes, almost exactly.
theyre called comps. i dont know if youve ever been to a casino, but theyre more than very common. casinos track how much a player wagers/bets (or how much theyre going to lose basically) and then figures out how much they can give back to him in cool free [censored]. if some guy drops 1K at blackjack theyre going to give him back 200$ worth of rooms, drinks, cabs, etc because it makes him happy as a clam.
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Of course they will give Roulette, Craps, and Blackjack players pretty good comps. But from my experience most casinos don't regard poker players as the same "donators" the table game players are. Like any casino is going to give a $3/6 live rock any comp?
CardSharpCook
10-11-2005, 03:30 AM
depends on the casino. Maybe I'm getting spoiled by the Bike.
pyroponic
10-11-2005, 03:39 AM
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depends on the casino. Maybe I'm getting spoiled by the Bike.
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I'm talking about in Detroit, specifically Motor City and Greektown. I have also visited Casino Windsor and the only comps two of the three offer are free sandwiches, hot dogs, and drinks. I'm pretty sure it's the same for most obscure casinos other than the bigger ones such as the Wynn, Bellagio, or Bike over on the West Coast. I'm pretty sure Atlantic City offers some decent comps, but i'm referring to casinos in places other than the huge gambling hotspots.
CardSharpCook
10-11-2005, 03:42 AM
You should hold out for a free pizza.
mosquito
10-11-2005, 04:37 AM
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depends on the casino. Maybe I'm getting spoiled by the Bike.
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I'm talking about in Detroit, specifically Motor City and Greektown. I have also visited Casino Windsor and the only comps two of the three offer are free sandwiches, hot dogs, and drinks. I'm pretty sure it's the same for most obscure casinos other than the bigger ones such as the Wynn, Bellagio, or Bike over on the West Coast. I'm pretty sure Atlantic City offers some decent comps, but i'm referring to casinos in places other than the huge gambling hotspots.
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Around Vegas $1/hr comp is fairly "standard" but I get $3/hr at one casino, low limit play, use for food, gift shop or whatever. Plus free sandwiches on top of that!
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One way to avoid this I think is to limit "approved" Party rakeback to reputable, established affiliates. With a limited number signed up, there'd almost be an oligopoly of sorts so there would be no need for cut-throat pricing.
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Ding ding ding. We have a bingo.
You either are very smart or are privy to what is really going on. You are exactly right.
Tuco.
GutPunch
10-11-2005, 04:58 AM
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Around Vegas $1/hr comp is fairly "standard" but I get $3/hr at one casino, low limit play, use for food, gift shop or whatever. Plus free sandwiches on top of that!
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what casino is that? I want to play there!
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Around Vegas $1/hr comp is fairly "standard" but I get $3/hr at one casino, low limit play, use for food, gift shop or whatever. Plus free sandwiches on top of that!
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Imperial Palace, at least for now. No telling how the Harrah's purchase will ruin it.
Back to the tread topic: the e-mail we are discussing states the if you want to use the same banking information, the affiliate needs to open the account. Otherwise, you can open a new account with different banking info. So it can be done either way; what that means, who knows.
what casino is that? I want to play there!
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