View Full Version : I thought this through. This wont be as bad as we are making this.
1. party has 10 tables now. dream of us multitablers.
2. party has BJ so they will be attracting alot more fishes.
3. party will increase its promotion so we can expect alot more advertisements and other sorts of promotions to bring in new fishes.
4. for those of you who are whining about rakeback. you guys have to understand that party DOES have rakeback but you just have to work hard in finding it. it might not be a 30%+ rakeback but im sure we can find a 25%+. i play about 1000 55's a month and also 109's in ocasion at 33% and 30% i will be effected but the influx of fishes party will bring i think makes it a necessity to go there.
am i missing something?
"when the fish leaves the water, the sharks will learn to walk the land"
KaneKungFu123
10-09-2005, 12:07 PM
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1. party has 10 tables now. dream of us multitablers.
why? before you couldve easily played ten tables, just using multiple skins.
2. party has BJ so they will be attracting alot more fishes.
this is equalized my the poker fish who decide to play bj.
3. party will increase its promotion so we can expect alot more advertisements and other sorts of promotions to bring in new fishes.
meh, if you say so.
4. for those of you who are whining about rakeback. you guys have to understand that party DOES have rakeback but you just have to work hard in finding it. it might not be a 30%+ rakeback but im sure we can find a 25%+. i play about 1000 55's a month and also 109's in ocasion at 33% and 30% i will be effected but the influx of fishes party will bring i think makes it a necessity to go there.?
what does this have to do with it being good?
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it doesnt, but rakeback is not as big as a case as everyone in 2+2 is making it out to be. they will get a small deduction thats all. but the fishes makes up for it.
smartalecc5
10-09-2005, 12:16 PM
party poker doesn't have trackers for rakeback....
theben
10-09-2005, 12:16 PM
don't jump at the new BJ and sidebet changes as good to bring in fishes. if you actually thought about what these things do, you might realize there is a strong chance it will LOSE us lots of fishes
furthermore, you can't get the unmentionable anywhere that doesnt blatantly violate partys T/C and it'll certainly eventually get shut down unless party changes thier attitudes
i do agree there'll be a lot more competition between sites and this is good for the Bwhores
I think blackjack could actually suck quite a bit of money from the fish (of which I am one). I probably donate around $800 a month to $5/10 and $3/6. I win a bit every once in a while and that's what keeps me coming back.
My normal routine is to play some $1/2 during the week and then take shots at $3/6 and $5/10 during weekend nights after I've had a few beers. Last night, instead of moving up to $3/6 or $5/10, I stayed at $1/2 and opened up a blackjack table. I started out with $10 bets, but before I knew it, I was betting the $200 max and lost $600. Now I'm itching to get my money back. I'll have to wait a couple of weeks until I get my next paycheck to give it another shot, but I have to try the blackjack again -- hopefully with more discipline next time.
Maybe the novelty will wear off, but for the short-term at least, a lot of this fish's money will be going to blackjack.
gulebjorn
10-09-2005, 01:16 PM
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I think blackjack could actually suck quite a bit of money from the fish (of which I am one). I probably donate around $800 a month to $5/10 and $3/6. I win a bit every once in a while and that's what keeps me coming back.
My normal routine is to play some $1/2 during the week and then take shots at $3/6 and $5/10 during weekend nights after I've had a few beers. Last night, instead of moving up to $3/6 or $5/10, I stayed at $1/2 and opened up a blackjack table. I started out with $10 bets, but before I knew it, I was betting the $200 max and lost $600. Now I'm itching to get my money back. I'll have to wait a couple of weeks until I get my next paycheck to give it another shot, but I have to try the blackjack again -- hopefully with more discipline next time.
Maybe the novelty will wear off, but for the short-term at least, a lot of this fish's money will be going to blackjack.
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Holy crap, dude. Unless you make a ton of money at your job, you have a problem.
ya bro you have a big problem.
I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
Emperor
10-09-2005, 01:28 PM
Check the affiliate forum... They do now...
Emperor
10-09-2005, 01:35 PM
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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I'd rather remain anonymous so that I have a chance to play with at least a few other donks as opposed to playing with a table of sharks. Just look for your typical $5/10 donkey playing on a Friday or Saturday night. One of those will likely be me.
Fantam
10-09-2005, 02:47 PM
Aw come on. Get yourself "Getting started in Hold'Em".
Its a quick read, and you can probably fit it in between law suits. It should at least stop you from losing $ like a leaking tap. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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don't jump at the new BJ and sidebet changes as good to bring in fishes. if you actually thought about what these things do, you might realize there is a strong chance it will LOSE us lots of fishes
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I don't think this will be so bad. The fish will play a game in which they are only a slight underdog as opposed to poker where they stand almost no chance. Maybe win a bit and then go gamble at the poker table.
RikaKazak
10-09-2005, 04:47 PM
YES THEY DO, you can get rakeback on pp, JUST MANUALLY TYPE INFO IN IN THE ADDRESS BAR, oh wait, I bet I'm one of the only affiliates that has it saved.
(DO NOT PM ME, I DO NOT GIVE RAKEBACK NOR AM I INTERESTED IN DOING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I just do it to get my own pp rakeback.
ThePimpulator
10-09-2005, 05:43 PM
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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ScreenName? I'd like to add you to my buddy list...
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ThePimpulator
10-09-2005, 05:43 PM
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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See above.
Why do you people have to be so snide to this guy? The guy works hard, is probably smarter and more successful than you, and likes to let of a bit of steam and have some entertainment at the weekends. The only reason you need to make him out to be beneath you is because you know in real life the reverse is true.
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Maulik
10-09-2005, 05:48 PM
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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See above.
Why do you people have to be so snide to this guy? The guy works hard, is probably smarter and more successful than you, and likes to let of a bit of steam and have some entertainment at the weekends. The only reason you need to make him out to be beneath you is because you know in real life the reverse is true.
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Great post, it conveys my thoughts exactly.
Worrots
10-09-2005, 05:51 PM
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think this will be so bad. The fish will play a game in which they are only a slight underdog as opposed to poker where they stand almost no chance. Maybe win a bit and then go gamble at the poker table.
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It's a -EV game. The fish will collectively lose net money on BJ. This means less money on the tables for them to lose to us.
Put it this way: Joe Fish decides to gamble online tonight. Do you want his first chance to lose money be on BJ or at the poker table? If he does BJ first, the odds are not on his getting to the poker table with more money to lose to 2+2ers.
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think this will be so bad. The fish will play a game in which they are only a slight underdog as opposed to poker where they stand almost no chance. Maybe win a bit and then go gamble at the poker table.
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It's a -EV game. The fish will collectively lose net money on BJ. This means less money on the tables for them to lose to us.
Put it this way: Joe Fish decides to gamble online tonight. Do you want his first chance to lose money be on BJ or at the poker table? If he does BJ first, the odds are not on his getting to the poker table with more money to lose to 2+2ers.
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ya but if joe fish was not a poker player at all but a black jack player he would have never been here. BJ allows the other BJ fishes to come here and try out poker. thus giving us more fishes.
ThePimpulator
10-09-2005, 05:58 PM
And another thing: this guy makes it possible for you to do what you do. Why dont you show him some respect. He chooses to live his life in a certain way, and it is a far more conventional way of doing things than the way we do it. (not saying thats good or bad)
Im sure we've all been in the situation where someone asks us what we do and then you can feel that they have a different opinion of you afterwards. They look down upon you a little. Not saying we should care about that and Im sure most of us dont. However, we know what it is like to have someone sneer at us for the way we choose to live our life. We of all people should be sensitive to those that choose to do things differently from us.
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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why is everyone taking this so seriously? no one here is offending him. he plays strictly for fun and not to make money since he is a rich sob already. why not play with some of the 2+2'ers instead of giving away money to others. and having a good time. i mean no disrespect.
Worrots
10-09-2005, 06:05 PM
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ya but if joe fish was not a poker player at all but a black jack player he would have never been here. BJ allows the other BJ fishes to come here and try out poker. thus giving us more fishes.
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You really think lots of people are going to come to Party just to play BJ and then migrate over to poker? If you're an online BJ player, Party is not prominent in your thinking. There are lot of other established casinos offering BJ for a long time.
Party would have to massively market the BJ option to attract a BJ-based mass of players. And given their situation, those marketing dollars are going to be spent on their bread and butter = poker.
mattw
10-09-2005, 06:09 PM
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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ScreenName? I'd like to add you to my buddy list...
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why is everyone taking this so seriously? no one here is offending him. he plays strictly for fun and not to make money since he is a rich snob already. why not play with some of the 2+2'ers instead of giving away money to others. and having a good time. i mean no disrespect.
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you call him a rich snob and mean no disrespect?
Greg J
10-09-2005, 06:11 PM
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The guy works hard, is probably smarter and more successful than you, and likes to let of a bit of steam and have some entertainment at the weekends.
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Well put.
I have trouble understanding the disrespect a lot of people show recreational players. I think it 1) shows a complete lack of class, and 2) often exposes a sense of inferiority. These are the same guys that yell at players for outrageous suckouts (whereas those of us with the maturity level of 5 year olds type in "nh" and move on).
pearljam
10-09-2005, 06:15 PM
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The guy works hard, is probably smarter and more successful than you, and likes to let of a bit of steam and have some entertainment at the weekends.
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Well put.
I have trouble understanding the disrespect a lot of people show recreational players. I think it 1) shows a complete lack of class, and 2) often exposes a sense of inferiority. These are the same guys that yell at players for outrageous suckouts (whereas those of us with the maturity level of 5 year olds type in "nh" and move on).
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I still maintain a sence of arrogance when dealing with fish like this, he has to get up in the morning and do something he probably doesnt want to do. So he makes a little more money then me? so what? I am doing what I want to do, I think that makes me a more successful person. Not that I berate fish at the table or anything, I dont, my chat is turned off at all times and I think its stupid in the first place.
Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
UncleSalty
10-09-2005, 06:48 PM
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Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
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Just wanted to chime in on the "snob" thing, since no one has addressed it. I think he called you a "rich S.O.B.", not "rich snob", which was mistakenly taken for a typo by another poster.
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ya but if joe fish was not a poker player at all but a black jack player he would have never been here. BJ allows the other BJ fishes to come here and try out poker. thus giving us more fishes.
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Surely though, if your a BJ fish you're not going to think "Hmmm.. I'll open a Pary Poker Account so that I can play BJ." They would simply open a Party Casino account to play BJ.
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I'm a lawyer and make about $120K per year. So I'm gambling away about 10% of my paycheck. Not too bad, but not necessarily good.
I've tried to learn how to play by reading posts here, but I'm usually too tired after working most of the day to put much concentration into it.
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ScreenName? I'd like to add you to my buddy list...
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why is everyone taking this so seriously? no one here is offending him. he plays strictly for fun and not to make money since he is a rich snob already. why not play with some of the 2+2'ers instead of giving away money to others. and having a good time. i mean no disrespect.
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you call him a rich snob and mean no disrespect?
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u sir need to chill out and not put letters into my word. annd use some common sense. you are taking this out of context.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
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ok bro, if i offended you i am sorry and meant no disrespect.pepole here are way to soft and taking my words out of line. i didnt say "rich sob" literally. i said it in a way to show that you have a good job and money isnt 2 much of an issue. again... people are taking my words to seriously. but again sorry only if YOU took what i said in a bad way. wasnt my intention.
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The guy works hard, is probably smarter and more successful than you, and likes to let of a bit of steam and have some entertainment at the weekends.
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Well put.
I have trouble understanding the disrespect a lot of people show recreational players. I think it 1) shows a complete lack of class, and 2) often exposes a sense of inferiority. These are the same guys that yell at players for outrageous suckouts (whereas those of us with the maturity level of 5 year olds type in "nh" and move on).
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I still maintain a sence of arrogance when dealing with fish like this, he has to get up in the morning and do something he probably doesnt want to do. So he makes a little more money then me? so what? I am doing what I want to do, I think that makes me a more successful person. Not that I berate fish at the table or anything, I dont, my chat is turned off at all times and I think its stupid in the first place.
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Python49
10-09-2005, 09:36 PM
BJ players coming to party poker to play.... novel idea
imported_stealthcow
10-09-2005, 09:47 PM
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Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
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i respect that you're willing to post here, a lot. i think too many people here don't really understand the fact that their jobs are concentrated upon taking money from those in leisure in comparison to others whose work benefits society. (although you are a laywer /images/graemlins/smile.gif ).
its ironic that these players look down on you, and look up to people whose job is to play a card game professionally.
kindof like prositutes looking down upon their customers.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
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terminated, you have absolutely nothing to apologize for. Your post obviously was not meant to show off, and anyone that has a problem with it has issues that Greg J hit on the head, though you likely do make a lot more than the people that had a problem with it. BTW if you aspire to get any better at poker, you find the right place, I would begin in the micro and beginners forum. The thing is that you are not going to make much money playing poker, and I think that's why it is probably hard for someone like yourself to try to play well. Playing one table of 5/10 full, assuming you get in 50hands/hr, a very good winrate is like $15/hour on average. So probably it's more fun for you to play a losing game that allows you take down a big score every once in a while. Well good luck either way, and I found your post very enlightening.
robinsons
10-10-2005, 01:14 AM
just to say that I echo tehox's post without quoting it.
The level of maturity in some people really is astounding (both good and bad, however mainly in this case bad).
One aspect of the BJ addition that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that it could actually help as well as hinder, especially at low-mid limits (say around 5/10). Although obviously it's -EV to play, there will be players who have a lucky run, build up say $250 from a $50 stake, and then decide to sit down with this on a higher stakes table than they normally play. I can imagine a lot of lowers stakes players who only deposit $50-100 getting bored of playing NL25/0.25-0.50/whatever, and deciding to switch to BJ instead. Some will get lucky, and will be tempted to see how they can do on higher games, even if just to say to their buddies 'hey I played 5/10 the other night!'. Obviously some players who play at higher stakes may do this as well (eg. the gentleman in this thread), however I don't imagine it will be that many in comparision to those in lower levels (if just for the simple fact that the majority of people cannot afford to drop 600 on BJ in 1 night). This obviously may be way off the mark, just thought I'd put this out there.
StacysMom
10-10-2005, 01:52 AM
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Sorry. I didn't mean to come across as a rich snob. From reading the posts of some of the full-time pros here I assumed that my income was inline with most of them. A little more than some and a little (or in some cases a lot) less than others.
And as for not liking what I do some days that is definitely true. Most days I would rather be playing poker than re-writing a memo for the sixth time. C'est la vie.
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Its perfectly cool to be a recreational player, with out em the games wouldn exist. I do think its cool that you are a lawyer trying to learn poker, and I'm a poker player, trying to get through lawschool.
Maybe we need some type of study arrangement? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Scuba Chuck
10-10-2005, 01:57 AM
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Maybe the novelty will wear off, but for the short-term at least, a lot of this fish's money will be going to blackjack.
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Out of curiosity, do you go to any live local casinos?
Do they have poker? Do you play there?
Do they have blackjack?
When you gambool, what game do you prefer? Does it matter?
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