PP $11 - a few beginner hands

***** Hand History for Game 2843866076 *****
50/100 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16420806) - Fri Oct 07 21:13:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 18328 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: JDB520 (1665)
Seat 2: elvis107 (585)
Seat 4: STD_champ (955)
Seat 5: clameron (1595)
Seat 6: HERO (370)
Seat 8: MATSUI03 (1955)
Seat 9: Claus13 (515)
Seat 10: rrnels (360)
JDB520 posts small blind (25)
elvis107 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts, Ah ]
STD_champ folds.
clameron folds.
HERO ?

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I pushed, how is that? no good?
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***** Hand History for Game 2843590486 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16419923) - Fri Oct 07 20:28:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 11047 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: alafiano111 (800)
Seat 2: ironchefmjs (800)
Seat 3: BigErn7111 (800)
Seat 4: guillermo11 (770)
Seat 5: finaltry (770)
Seat 6: dstar559 (800)
Seat 7: HERO (800)
Seat 8: booshiet (800)
Seat 9: tammy17745 (800)
Seat 10: kingrusky (860)
finaltry posts small blind (10)
dstar559 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs, Qh ]
HERO raises (75) to 75
booshiet folds.
tammy17745 calls (75)
kingrusky calls (75)
alafiano111 folds.
ironchefmjs folds.
BigErn7111 folds.
guillermo11 folds.
finaltry folds.
dstar559 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 4h, 4c ]
HERO bets (150)
tammy17745 calls (150)
kingrusky calls (150)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
HERO checks.
tammy17745 bets (575)
tammy17745 is all-In.
kingrusky calls (575)
HERO folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 9s ]
Creating Main Pot with $1850 with tammy17745
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1850 |
Board: [ Ah 4h 4c Tc 9s ]
alafiano111 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
ironchefmjs balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
BigErn7111 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
guillermo11 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
finaltry balance 760, lost 10 (folded)
dstar559 balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
HERO balance 575, lost 225 (folded)
booshiet balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
tammy17745 balance 1850, bet 800, collected 1850, net +1050 [ As Jd ] [ two pairs, aces and fours with jack kicker -- As,Ah,Jd,4h,4c ]
kingrusky balance 60, lost 800 [ Ac 8s ] [ two pairs, aces and fours -- Ac,Ah,Tc,4h,4c ]

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Continuation bet this flop or check? Size of flop bet? Check fold turn? Thanks.
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***** Hand History for Game 2843596705 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16419923) - Fri Oct 07 20:29:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 11047 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: alafiano111 (800)
Seat 2: ironchefmjs (800)
Seat 3: BigErn7111 (800)
Seat 4: guillermo11 (770)
Seat 5: finaltry (760)
Seat 6: dstar559 (785)
Seat 7: HERO (575)
Seat 8: booshiet (800)
Seat 9: tammy17745 (1850)
Seat 10: kingrusky (60)
dstar559 posts small blind (10)
HERO posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Th, Ad ]
booshiet calls (15)
tammy17745 folds.
kingrusky raises (60) to 60
kingrusky is all-In.
alafiano111 folds.
ironchefmjs calls (60)
BigErn7111 folds.
guillermo11 folds.
finaltry calls (60)
dstar559 calls (50)
HERO folds.
booshiet calls (45)

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Is this a standard fold or do pot odds suggest I call? Thanks.
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***** Hand History for Game 2843664817 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16419923) - Fri Oct 07 20:40:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 11047 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: ironchefmjs (1105)
Seat 3: BigErn7111 (730)
Seat 4: guillermo11 (300)
Seat 5: finaltry (860)
Seat 6: dstar559 (1065)
Seat 7: HERO (500)
Seat 8: booshiet (1170)
Seat 9: tammy17745 (2270)
dstar559 posts small blind (15)
HERO posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qc, Qh ]
booshiet folds.
tammy17745 calls (30)
ironchefmjs folds.
BigErn7111 calls (30)
guillermo11 calls (30)
finaltry folds.
dstar559 folds.
HERO raises (470) to 500
HERO is all-In.
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Should I have just raised about 200 to try and get one or two callers or is all-in the move here? Thanks.
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Thanks for any input.

[bluefeet]

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I pushed, how is that? no good?
<font color="blue">good push. with your stack, you're done raising. you'll take a race here against PP&lt;TT...you might even get a call from a lessor Ace against your broke butt /images/graemlins/wink.gif</font>
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Continuation bet this flop or check? Size of flop bet? Check fold turn? Thanks.
<font color="blue">meh...you played it fine. 150 into 225 should get rid of the "big card"-nonAce cards, maybe even a mid-PP. folding to a raise on the flop is wise - as is your check/fold on the turn. no reason to not believe there is an Ace holder at this point.</font>
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Is this a standard fold or do pot odds suggest I call? Thanks.
<font color="blue">this PF fold is fine IMO. you're in that "pushing" range - but you need to wait for opening-aggression if possible. considering the original raiser is AI with god knows what, pushing AI for a crack at a bunch of dead chips is an option. but with 3(?) already calling, you're taking quite a bit of risk - with 1 caller, maybe.</font>
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Should I have just raised about 200 to try and get one or two callers or is all-in the move here? Thanks.
<font color="blue">eh, maybe, maybe not. OOP, you'd want your raise to certainly be a substantial one, but with a caller you're now facing a flop pot &gt; than your stack...no fun w/ an ace on board. adding t105 to your stack here, on the off chance one might call isn't too bad. raising less to thin the heard is an option, looking to move on a non-over flop.</font>
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Thanks Bluefeet, you rule, very helpful.

1 -- yup, push. Lousy hand for it but it will do.

2 -- I like checking here. If you had no hand at all maybe you could bet, but you're only going to drive out hands you're beating, and there's usually an ace in a 3-way raised pot. And most people aren't bluffing into an ace, so you can often show the hand down. If you had checked, next player bets, third player calls/raises -- you know your hand is no good anyway. Is better to use someone else's chips to gain information. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

3 -- Push!!! the guy could have moved in with anything, everyone knows that and most likely they have no hand. If they did they would have raised to isolate.

4 -- If I had any more chips I would raise to 200 and see what happened. Any less, I'd push. You're in that zone where it doesn't matter much IMO.

thanks Jamougha, I like your line on 2.

For 3, I would have pushed maybe a level or two later, but I felt I would be called by at least 1 person and didn't want to coin flip that early- what is wrong with my thinking there? Is there some math I should be doing?