View Full Version : How many people are 'certain' about god?
bocablkr
10-08-2005, 06:20 PM
Forget whether you can be certain about something that can't be proven or disproven - just give your heartfelt answer.
chezlaw
10-08-2005, 06:52 PM
As certainty is closely related to proof, I dont see how I can vote on one while forgeting the other.
'heartfelt answer' - doesn't that justify what I suggested earlier, that this certainty of which you speak hasn't any rational content (more of an emotional outburst).
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Aytumious
10-08-2005, 07:11 PM
Based on my current assesment of the evidence, or lack thereof, I'd have to say I do not believe there is a god. If the evidence changes, I am open to changing my perspective.
Dominic
10-08-2005, 07:44 PM
anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
bocablkr
10-08-2005, 08:17 PM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
DougShrapnel
10-08-2005, 08:19 PM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
[/ QUOTE ]All unicorns have one eye, idiot.
bocablkr
10-08-2005, 08:32 PM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
[/ QUOTE ]All unicorns have one eye, idiot.
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Since when? Are you thinking of a cyclops? Unicorns have one horn - idiot.
chezlaw
10-08-2005, 08:37 PM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
[/ QUOTE ]All unicorns have one eye, idiot.
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Since when? Are you thinking of a cyclops? Unicorns have one horn - idiot.
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The trouble is they think they're horses and by the time they realise their msitake they only have one eye.
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purnell
10-08-2005, 09:18 PM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
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I am as certain that all the gods that humans have ever believed in are fictional as I am of the reality of my perception. So I guess that's like 99.9999999999999% or something like that. Funny thing though, I have "seen" things that were not "real", and jumbled the spoken words of others so that what I heard was not what was said, meaning that my perception is fallible and finite. Things could exist the likes of which I can't even imagine. In that sense, I'm not absolutely certain about anything.
As a young child, I struggled with my certainty of everything. I wasn't certain that Germany or England or anywhere outside of North America existed. And I had a strong doubt. I even questioned everyone else's existence as being independent of my own. I've gotten over it for the most part and can function in society, but I'm still not certain that I'm not a limbless torso in a hospital bed hooked up to a bunch of computers and machines. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Jman28
10-09-2005, 03:25 AM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
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I know this was directed at Dominic, but I agree with his statements, and my answer to you question is 'Yes, they are an idiot, if they truly say that they are certain and understand what that means.'
Dominic
10-09-2005, 04:02 AM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
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Notice I didn't say, "Anyone who is certain about ANYTHING is an idiot." Although, I would be skeptical of someone who is absolutely certain about more than a small number of things.
This conversation is about God...how one-eyed unicorns got into the equation,I don't know. But I look on with the same increduality at someone who believes in God as much as someone who believes in one-eyed unicorns.
Simply put, there is no proof for either...or proof that either do not exist...although I'd rather not get into trying to prove a negative. It's like trying to teach a pig to dance. It annoys the pig and you both look foolish in the attempt.
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10-09-2005, 04:16 AM
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anbody who is certain there is a God or who is certain there isn't a God, is simply, an idiot.
No way to know, one way or the other.
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This was not meant to be that kind of post - but since you started it, would you call someone who is certain that the Universe was not created by a one-eyed Unicorn an idiot? No way to know, one way or the other.
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I know this was directed at Dominic, but I agree with his statements, and my answer to you question is 'Yes, they are an idiot, if they truly say that they are certain and understand what that means.'
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Bataglin
10-09-2005, 06:50 AM
lol /images/graemlins/grin.gif
bocablkr
10-09-2005, 09:48 AM
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I know this was directed at Dominic, but I agree with his statements, and my answer to you question is 'Yes, they are an idiot, if they truly say that they are certain and understand what that means.'
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To me, being certain of something means you have no doubt - none what-so-ever. It does not mean that what you are certain about is indeed factual or even correct. It is just how you feel personally about something. It does not make you an idiot. That was the point of this post - how many people feel certain about this issue.
Bataglin
10-09-2005, 10:06 AM
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In that sense, I'm not absolutely certain about anything.
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THAT is for sure /images/graemlins/wink.gif
BTW, I totally agree. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I'm not certain one way or the other.
However, I am virtually 100% certain that none of the stories that humans have about their respective gods are based in reality. I'm convinced that they are all fabricated.
spaminator101
10-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't see how someone can say this.IMO] I mean i beleive its either you beleive or you don't.
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