taking shots in bigger NL games

[pfkaok]

so on party do i need to learn to play 6 max, or is it worth just tying a few shots at the bigger game? it seems like there's very few being spread between $400 and $2k.

also, whats a normal "shot" for NL, in terms of buyins? I guess this is more of a risk of ruin question, and also how tough the $2k game is. Say, for a winning player (which i hope i am), how likely would i be to make it if i just set 3 buyins aside for a shot? or 5? or 10?

[JKratzer]

I'd say set aside whatever you feel comfortable gambling with and try it out. The 2k game plays much different than the 400 game, so I would expect to drop a little getting adjusted. Starting with just 3 buyins you'd have to start off with a decent hot streak to make it, obviously the more buyins the better chance of staying at the higher limit. I think if you could afford to set aside 10 and you're a winning player you would have a good chance of making it.

One idea for you to consider, try a different site. Many sites may not have as many tables at each limit, but they have a couple tables at each limit, allowing you to work up more gradually. Either way, good luck and definitely post some hands at your new limit.

JKratzer

[The Ocho]

I've taken shots with as much as 100% of my bankroll on the table in a live, uncapped game. Naturally, the game has to be just right for this to happen. I don't play poker for a living, so taking calculated risks like this allowed me to move up in limits fairly quickly for someone who logs very few hours playing. And it doesn't matter much if I fail because I still have my job to pay the bills and get my roll started again.

[pfkaok]

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I'd say set aside whatever you feel comfortable gambling with and try it out. The 2k game plays much different than the 400 game, so I would expect to drop a little getting adjusted. Starting with just 3 buyins you'd have to start off with a decent hot streak to make it, obviously the more buyins the better chance of staying at the higher limit. I think if you could afford to set aside 10 and you're a winning player you would have a good chance of making it.

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Yeah, i think 5 would probably be the most that i'd want to gamble with right away in a game that i'm not sure what edge i'd have. also, i feel like unless i ran real bad and dropped it right away i could probably at least get a feel for the game after that, and get an idea for how good/bad people are playing. if i took only 5, would that even be worth it, or would there be too little of a chance of making it (even if i play well)?

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One idea for you to consider, try a different site. Many sites may not have as many tables at each limit, but they have a couple tables at each limit, allowing you to work up more gradually. Either way, good luck and definitely post some hands at your new limit.

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This is a good idea as well. what sites are good and at least decent sized? i know pstars has pretty good amount, but i'd have trouble getting a lot of money in there through NETeller... but if the games are good there i suppose i could just spend a little time building up in the smaller NL games there. what are some others though that have midsized NL games?

[pfkaok]

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I've taken shots with as much as 100% of my bankroll on the table in a live, uncapped game. Naturally, the game has to be just right for this to happen. I don't play poker for a living, so taking calculated risks like this allowed me to move up in limits fairly quickly for someone who logs very few hours playing. And it doesn't matter much if I fail because I still have my job to pay the bills and get my roll started again.

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yeah, it'd be nice if i could do this, but unfortunately poker is my only source of income. my main problem is that i'm very over-rolled for the $200 and $400 games, but maybe a little underexperienced at NL for the $2k game.

[vanHelsing]

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I've taken shots with as much as 100% of my bankroll on the table in a live, uncapped game. Naturally, the game has to be just right for this to happen. I don't play poker for a living, so taking calculated risks like this allowed me to move up in limits fairly quickly for someone who logs very few hours playing. And it doesn't matter much if I fail because I still have my job to pay the bills and get my roll started again.

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yeah, it'd be nice if i could do this, but unfortunately poker is my only source of income. my main problem is that i'm very over-rolled for the $200 and $400 games, but maybe a little underexperienced at NL for the $2k game.

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how about learning to beat 6max? will make you a more complete player anyway. and it's much more fun...

[technologic]

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I've taken shots with as much as 100% of my bankroll on the table in a live, uncapped game. Naturally, the game has to be just right for this to happen. I don't play poker for a living, so taking calculated risks like this allowed me to move up in limits fairly quickly for someone who logs very few hours playing. And it doesn't matter much if I fail because I still have my job to pay the bills and get my roll started again.

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GAMBOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Mikey]

if Poker is your only source of income I highly advise against taking a shot.

If you are going to take a shot it should be with money you really wont miss.

[JKratzer]

I don't know of any site in particular that has a good range, but if you got money on a couple different sites (stars, prima, ub, ftp, etc.) then you could have many sites to choose from in order to play as many tables as you want. I'm facing the same issues as you right now, and I usually play the 1 600 table or 1 1000 game on party, in addition to the occasional prima and stars table.

Hope that helps,
JKratzer

[KaneKungFu123]

all you guys waiting to learn sh'ed, the clock is ticking.

[pfkaok]

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if Poker is your only source of income I highly advise against taking a shot.

If you are going to take a shot it should be with money you really wont miss.

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well, yeah. the thing is i never really took any shots when i was playing LHE. after reading the Kelly betting thing in the 2+2 mag a few months ago it made me realize that i probably have been costing myself money be being overly safe.

i know its bad to take a shot with too much so that i'd be having to drop down to a lower limit. but since its such a pretty huge difference in stakes i'm very overrolled for the 2 and 400 games. and even if i took a 5 buyin shot i stil would have more than enough for the smaller games, i'm mostly worried about if i'll have an edge in that game, or if there's even a remote chance of starting off hot and never looking back without hitting a negative 5 buyin swing at first. and also how much better chances i'd have if i was willing to put up 10 buyins.

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all you guys waiting to learn sh'ed, the clock is ticking.

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what does that mean?

[mcb]

full ring will become extinct

[pfkaok]

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full ring will become extinct

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really? why is that?

[kagame]

when i was at the mirage in vegas last summer a floorperson said they would be getting 6 handed tables soon

anyone seen 6max in a casino yet?

when that happens ill start to believe ring is out like a t-rex

[KaneKungFu123]

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full ring will become extinct

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really? why is that?

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i dunno if it will be extinct, but obviously when the player pool begins to shrink, being able to scrap sh'ed will be an invaluable edge versus other players who cannot or have no experience doing so.