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El Barto
10-07-2005, 11:42 AM
Nobel Peace Prize Goes To El-Baradei

He's another Jimmy Carter in terms of contributing nothing to world pease.

Matty
10-07-2005, 11:53 AM
It's a sad day when people are lampooned as useless for being right.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/04/27/backwards-it-getting/

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He Was Right About Nuclear Weapons: IAEA Director ElBaradei told the United Nations that nuclear experts had found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In February 2003, he warned the White House “We have to date found no evidence of ongoing prohibited nuclear or nuclear-related activities in Iraq.” President Bush’s nomination to the U.N., John Bolton, attacked him, saying that was “impossible to believe.” (Today, two years after the invasion of Iraq, no weapons of mass destruction have been found and, in fact, the “intelligence” provided by Bolton’s Office of Special Plans turned out to be “dead wrong.”)

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He Was Right About Uranium: In March 2003, El Baradei said the “documents which formed the basis for [the White House’s assertion] of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger are in fact not authentic.” Vice President Cheney, asked about this a week later, said, “Mr. El Baradei frankly is wrong.” (The documents turned out to be fakes. Cheney, frankly, was wrong.)

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He Was Right About Aluminum Tubes: In March 2003, ElBaradei said nuclear experts found “no indication” that Iraq tried to import high-strength aluminum tubes for a centrifuge to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice ignored that finding and claimed in July 2003 that “the consensus view” in the intelligence community was that the tubes “were suitable for use in centrifuges to spin material for nuclear weapons.” (The tubes, in fact, were not for use for weaponizing uranium. They were the wrong size — “too narrow, too heavy, too long” for a centrifuge. They had a special coating to protect them from the weather, which was “not consistent” with use in a centrifuge, as it could cause bad reactions with uranium.)

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nicky g
10-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Peace-prize givers generally do bash war-mongerers. It's sort of implicit.

kurto
10-07-2005, 12:02 PM
You kind of have to mock common sense and reality to support Bush. So, this thread is rather 'business as usual.'

Matty
10-07-2005, 12:06 PM
Yeah and who's going to listen to a guy with a terrorist-sounding name anyway? BushCo can certainly be forgiven for this.

Roybert
10-07-2005, 12:43 PM
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Peace-prize givers generally do bash war-mongerers. It's sort of implicit.

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nh

Although I will say that this El Baradei guy doesn't sound like he's supporting the troops. He must not be a patriot.

andyfox
10-07-2005, 01:37 PM
Give pease a chance.

tylerdurden
10-07-2005, 01:39 PM
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Peace-prize givers generally do bash war-mongerers. It's sort of implicit.

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What about the ones that are themselves warmongers?

DVaut1
10-07-2005, 01:44 PM
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Nobel Peace Prize Goes To El-Baradei

He's another Jimmy Carter in terms of contributing nothing to world pease.

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Give pease a chance.

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Carter and ElBaradei - like two pease in a pod.

Sifmole
10-07-2005, 02:39 PM
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It's a sad day when people are lampooned as useless for being right.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/04/27/backwards-it-getting/

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He Was Right About Nuclear Weapons: IAEA Director ElBaradei told the United Nations that nuclear experts had found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In February 2003, he warned the White House “We have to date found no evidence of ongoing prohibited nuclear or nuclear-related activities in Iraq.” President Bush’s nomination to the U.N., John Bolton, attacked him, saying that was “impossible to believe.” (Today, two years after the invasion of Iraq, no weapons of mass destruction have been found and, in fact, the “intelligence” provided by Bolton’s Office of Special Plans turned out to be “dead wrong.”)

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He Was Right About Uranium: In March 2003, El Baradei said the “documents which formed the basis for [the White House’s assertion] of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger are in fact not authentic.” Vice President Cheney, asked about this a week later, said, “Mr. El Baradei frankly is wrong.” (The documents turned out to be fakes. Cheney, frankly, was wrong.)

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He Was Right About Aluminum Tubes: In March 2003, ElBaradei said nuclear experts found “no indication” that Iraq tried to import high-strength aluminum tubes for a centrifuge to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice ignored that finding and claimed in July 2003 that “the consensus view” in the intelligence community was that the tubes “were suitable for use in centrifuges to spin material for nuclear weapons.” (The tubes, in fact, were not for use for weaponizing uranium. They were the wrong size — “too narrow, too heavy, too long” for a centrifuge. They had a special coating to protect them from the weather, which was “not consistent” with use in a centrifuge, as it could cause bad reactions with uranium.)

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But he hasn't DONE anything! There are probably 13 million people who can lay claim to the statements ( or sentiments ) that you post here -- do they all get one?

Matty
10-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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But he hasn't DONE anything!

[/ QUOTE ]Bullshit.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/IAEA_and_its_director_ElBaradei_are_awarded_the_No bel_Peace_Prize
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Energy_Agency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei

Either you don't understand what the Nobel Peace Prize is, or you have no idea what the IAEA is.

Cyrus
10-08-2005, 03:22 AM
and intelligence.

Elbaradei is intelligent. And a stickler for fact and truth. And his statements and the policies of the IAEA indicate all that. Hans Blix is intelligent. And a stickler for accuracy. And he loathes the partisan agenda that all sides try to load upon the UN's job. And he showed that.

But it has become a fact that facts do not matter to the neo-cons currently holding on to power in the United States. A prominent member of them has openly and rather arrogantly dismissed criticism of current foreign policy as "merely words". You keep observing and criticising, he "advised" liberal critics, while we change the world and soon we will have a new world for you to observe and criticise!

This kind of attitude used to be called "Hybris". Upon which the gods would frown and send thunder. We shall see how it plays out.

10-08-2005, 07:54 AM
The first part of the article is interesting too:

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The board of the International Atomic Energy Agency met today to decide whether to reappoint Mohamed ElBaradei to a third term as the head of the UN’s atomic watchdog agency. They had to postpone the decision: thirty-four out of the 35 IAEA board member countries support naming Mohamed ElBaradei to a third term. One, however, opposed: The United States wants to block his nomination.

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Good international politics on behalf of Bush?