The Bird Flu

[Cumulonimbus]

Choose a link:

For the general public. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9607622/)
OR
For the conspiracy theorists. (http://www.infowars.com/articles/server_down/ps_bush_military_bird_flu_plan_slammed.htm)

Either way, what are all of your backup plans if this does turn into a pandemic? Keep in mind, vaccines are probably out of the question. I think I'll buy a sailboat and sail for a few years if it gets even a little nasty.

[Cyrus]

Your poll omits the other option: "We are at risk but cannot escape elsewhere".

Despite what the Alaska oil drillers would like you to believe, we have only one planet.

[Cumulonimbus]

This is very very true.

[Matty]

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I think I'll buy a sailboat and sail for a few years if it gets even a little nasty.

[/ QUOTE ]The seagulls will hunt you down.

Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

[Cumulonimbus]

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I think I'll buy a sailboat and sail for a few years if it gets even a little nasty.

[/ QUOTE ]The seagulls will hunt you down.

Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

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Are you suggesting black market vaccines?

[tylerdurden]

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Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

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Don't worry about it. FEMA will fix it.

[Matty]

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Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

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Don't worry about it. FEMA will fix it.

[/ QUOTE ]The did a helluva job with Rita once Bush's buddy was removed from the equation...

And they did a phenomenally better job than the free market did with Katrina.

[Matty]

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I think I'll buy a sailboat and sail for a few years if it gets even a little nasty.

[/ QUOTE ]The seagulls will hunt you down.

Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

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Are you suggesting black market vaccines?

[/ QUOTE ]I'm mocking the Republican-leaning anarchists that run around these boards.

[Cumulonimbus]

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I think I'll buy a sailboat and sail for a few years if it gets even a little nasty.

[/ QUOTE ]The seagulls will hunt you down.

Oh, and don't worry about it. The free market will fix it.

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It's all clear now.

Are you suggesting black market vaccines?

[/ QUOTE ]I'm mocking the Republican-leaning anarchists that run around these boards.

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[SheetWise]

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And they did a phenomenally better job than the free market did with Katrina.

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Who is "they", and where do you suppose "they" got all of their stuff?

[Matty]

They = FEMA. Is this not obvious? And they got their stuff with federal dollars.

[tylerdurden]

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The did a helluva job with Rita once Bush's buddy was removed from the equation...

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Yeah, Rita was a comprable situation. What exactly did they do that was so awesome that everything would have fallen apart had it not been done?

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And they did a phenomenally better job than the free market did with Katrina.

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That's not hard to do when the state forces keep private aid agencies from entering the city.

[NobodysFreak]

anyone else getting sick of the fear mongering in the media? A bunch of sick and elderly people die of the flu and we're all supposed to jump?

[Cumulonimbus]

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anyone else getting sick of the fear mongering in the media? A bunch of sick and elderly people die of the flu and we're all supposed to jump?

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Get educated. Or die.

[mmbt0ne]

I'm doing the same thing I did for SARS and West Nile Virus.

[ptmusic]

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I'm doing the same thing I did for SARS and West Nile Virus.

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Wearing your grandma's panties will not protect you; I don't know why you keep relying on that.

-ptmusic

[mmbt0ne]

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I'm doing the same thing I did for SARS and West Nile Virus.

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Wearing your grandma's panties will not protect you; I don't know why you keep relying on that.

-ptmusic

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Hey, I haven't gotten sick yet. Don't knock it til you try it.

[Hamish McBagpipe]

I bump this thread after reading these articles,

Bird Flu Vaccine (http://www.ericmargolis.com/)

"But when the flu pandemic goes global – experts fear some time this winter – there won’t be time to produce enough vaccines. 70% of vaccine is made in Europe. US vaccine plants were shut over the years because of non-profitability.

The Bush Administration, which is spending US$362 billion on its fool’s war in Iraq, lacks funds to restart vaccine production. Last winter, the US even ran out of normal flu vaccines, a humiliating fiasco for the world’s richest nation.

Billions for aggressive wars; pennies for national health- a policy worthy of the old Soviet Union.

If the pandemic hits this year, there will be worldwide shortages of flu, vaccine particularly in the USA. President Bush’s dithering and inattention to this grave threat has left Americans open to pandemic illness and civil unrest. Only now is the White House beginning to take action. But the pandemic threat was clear to world health officials over a year ago.

Only one current drug, Tamiflu, may reduce avian flu symptoms, particularly in vulnerable elderly and children. The White House has put in a last-minute order with Roche for 81 million Tamiflu doses, but Roche says it may not be produced in time for winter.

Canada, France, Britain, and Japan all laid in ample stocks well in advance. The US finds itself at the very end of the world’s order line for Tamiflu. What a disgrace, and what an egregious act of negligence by a government so obsessed with the minor threat of terrorism and conquering Iraq it averts its eyes from an oncoming disease tsunami.

Existing US Tamiflu stocks can treat only 2% of the population. Bush’s solution: `well bring out the army.’ Indeed, riots, chaos, mass evacuations, and economic collapse can be expected if the pandemic hits the woefully unprepared United States. Those know-it-all Republican Conservatives who sneer at other nation’s `socialist’ public health programs may be the first to die if the flu pandemic hits.

SF Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/16/INGFTF7EMR1.DTL)

"The second priority -- building an adequate public inventory of Tamiflu -- has always been a no-brainer. Yet Washington malingered before adding the antiviral to its strategic stockpile and then purchased only enough to protect less than 2 percent of the population -- in sharp contrast to France, with supplies for 24 percent of the population, or New Zealand, with 21 percent coverage.

[Cumulonimbus]

Yeah, I've been doing even more research into it. Pretty much, I think we're [censored].

[bobman0330]

That's some weak reasoning Hamish. Of course we can afford to produce vaccine and fight the war in Iraq...