neteller

[Hung]

Hello,

I went to the website neteller.com And I tried to sign up. Because this is pretty easy to use. But it seems like it's only for Americans. How comes Zwiggeltje who's from Holland has a neteller account?
I'd like to have one too. What to do?

[mongeron]

There is nothing special. Just sign up like the instructions say, but don't try to register a bank account, since that is just for the U.S. and Canadians. You can then transfer money to the account with at least credit cards.

- mongeron

[nicky g]

If you want to use a credit card they'll ask you to fax them a copy of your passport and both sides of the card. Needless to say this isn't very attractive. They say they are working on being able to deal with European bank accounts.

[BlueBear]

I use Neteller despite being in Australia. During my early days of poker, I transferred money to poker sites via Western Union. But the need of transferring money quickly and cheaply from site to site to take advantage of bonuses made Neteller a necessity. I frequently transfer money from site to site without ever having to transfer money directly into Neteller and without ever having to link it with a bank account.

[lorinda]

Basically Hung, you can't fund it very easily, however it is no problem, because you can cash in and out of sites with it.

You will first fund it by cashing out from somewhere...when you do, email the customer support of wherever you cashout from and let them know you want it to go to Neteller.

Your Neteller email must be the same as your poker emails..

Lori

[Hung]

I think I got it all wrong.
Why should I use Neteller? I thought it was easier for me. Because i don't like it to get the cheques by post. Someone could steal in out of my mailbox. Or it coulg get lost somewhere... I used to cash out a few hundreds. So that's ok. but now I wait for bigger amounts and I don't want to lose a cheque of $1500
I thought Neteller was linked to my bankaccount. So I don't have to mvoe my ass. I just click and the money goes to my account. I suppose I got it all wrong?

Putting it back on my VISA is great too. But most of the sites don't do this. We've talked about this before. It's annoying if you're winning (LOL)
It's easier when you lose. You just deposit and whoops all gone.

[dink]

Where about in oz are you? I am from Towsnville, NQ I have only just started playing poker online and can't get a casino game up here. I have used netteller for playin at many casinos and it is very handy for sending money back and forth. /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[Templeton]

Paypal used to link to foreign Bank Accounts as I seem recall, but being a relatively new online player, Paypal is before my time. Hence my question is (& quite possibly a dumbass one) can you transfer funds between Neteller & Paypal?
Other than that, Neteller is very handy indeed, leave it in Neteller & wait for deposit bonuses.

Templeton

[BonusMan]

Hung, when you click " Sign up now for your FREE NETeller Account! " you will find another link on the top right corner of the form that says " International Signup ". Click on that to open a Neteller account, I bet you will find it very, very usefull. I´m in Finland, Europe and for me NETeller is the one and only way to transfer money between pokerrooms.

More good news! Go ahead and order their debit card and you´ll be able to withdraw you winnings from any ATM that accepts Cirrus and Maestro cards. They only charge $2 per withdrawal and thats all. The fee for withdrawal used to be 2,75% up to $15 but like I said its only $2 now and you can withdraw up to $1000 per day.

BONUSMAN

[Hung]

Woehoe, that's good.
I'll check it out.
thx.

[Emperor]

I was wondering about this as well.

[jumpthru]

How do you quickly transfer money from site to site, without transfering it BACK to neteller first? Or if you do transfer it back first, doesn
t it take a few days to go back to neteller, correct?

On a side note, has anyone else been having instacash requests denied recently, after having done a lot of succesful ones earlier? It says contact my bank, but I didn't feel like it, so I just am going the slow EFT way.

[adam74]

But to get this debit card you still have to go through the palaver of having your account 'certified', i.e. by faxing them copies of the front and back of your credit card and of your passport, or by scanning and e-mailing them. As nickyg said above, this doesn't sound like an attactive proposition.

I can see how NETeller is excellent if you simply want to shunt money between various sites, but I like actually getting hold of my winnings, and NETeller doesn't seem to make this any easier/cheaper. The options for Brits (and probably all Europeans) seem to be:

1. Credit cards; their own debit card: both would be good, but both - as I understand it - require this 'certification' business.

2. EFT: does this mean directly into a bank account? I guess this is only possible for US accounts.

3. Cheques: more expensive than simply getting a cheque from the poker site.

So I don't think NETeller really helps, but I hope someone can tell me that I'm wrong.

[Hung]

I'm gonna move to Cali and live with my family there /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
It's 3 hours driving to vegas from their place. I wont have to worry about withdraws anymore /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

[dr_mabuse]

hi,
i am thinking of getting a neteller account myself too, but unfortunatly i am european citizen and like to know how to retrieve some money from the account ?
besides are there any fees for neteller transactions ?
thanks and bye
olaf !

[lorinda]

I don't use Neteller for withdrawals, as thankfully at few of my friends like to buy my $$ off me on various sites.

However I believe that a cheque takes 7 days or so to reach the UK and costs $1 at the Neteller end...of course your bank will charge more like $15, but that would be the same from a poker site too.

Lori

[dr_mabuse]

hi lorinda,

what is the bank charge you are talking about for ?
registering the cheque with your bank ?
that is usually for free over here.

thanks and bye
olaf

[lorinda]

In the UK, your bank steals money from you twice when dealing with dollars.

Firstly they charge you $10-20 for the inconvenience of changing dollars to pounds (No euros here of course) and then they rip you off on the exchange rate.

Further to that, they are entitled to keep your money for up to 8 weeks whilst they use regular mail to contact the bank (Usually in Florida for online poker sites) to check that your money isn't stolen or forged.

They usually honour the cheque within a few days, but they ALWAYS apply the first two rip-offs, hopefully Hung can shed more light on European bank charges.

Lori

[dink]

Try this for an idea, I am doing from oz and it seems to be working,

go to playgate or prestige casino and open an a/c, they will give you a deposit bonus, play it through using blackjack until you can withdraw the bonus. Then make a small deposit using your credit card, $50 , they send you a pin and they will transfer money to your credit card (over the amount you deposited). Make a deposit with netteller, leave it there for a week or so and then withdraw the money to your credit card. Wollah

so far it has worked for me,
I have just made a $500 withdrawal there and I will keep you up to date if it works (smaller withdrawals have been fine)

cheers
Dink /forums/images/icons/smirk.gif

[Hung]

your bank steals money from you

Yes that's how I call it too. It's insane how much they charge you for a cheque coming from the states. You're discouraged to win if you know how much it cost to withdraw lol.

[Lunamondo]

Bank wire (nonpersonal) will also do, from anywhere. Neteller as a whole might be the best option there is.

[Martin Aigner]

I don´t play at UB, but I think I´ve read here once that at UB you can cash out via credit card even a bigger amount that you deposited via credit card. It that´s wrong, don´t read any further, if it´s right, this might work:

Transfer money via Netteller to UB and cash out at UB via credit card. Sure, you only get your money once a month, but I think it might cost way less than transfering the $-checks to €/GBP-checks.

I myself have the same problem. My solution was to open an $-account at my bank: Of course I would have to pay changing fees if I wanted to change the $$$ to €€€. My wife and I simply use the money to travel to the USA once or twice a year and play poker there.

Best regards

Martin Aigner

[nicky g]

What do you have to do (non-US customers, I mean) if you simply want to use netteller to transfer money between sites (and not to deposit money to it with a credit card or use its ATM card)? Do you still have to send copies of your passport?

Here's an idea that may work for UK players. Transfer money from your poker site account to Pacific Poker via Neteller. Pacific Poker (weirdly) accepts Switch, and you can almost always withdraw money to a switch card (which basically means straight into your bank account) that hasn't been deposited by it. I emailed them to ask if this was possible and never got a reply - which doesn't bode well, given that some help from them would probably be necessary. Anyone thnk it might work?

[rusty JEDI]

I am not a fan of the method that a few mentioned where you transfer it to a casino or pokersite that has less cashout fees. The reason i feel this is wrong because each site pays fees for these. Neteller charges the site 4% for the deposit you make, and i assume their is a cashout fee for them be it check/wire, and even postage. The same goes for credit card fees. You dont see them now but that is because the sites are graciously paying them for you. So I really dont think it is fair, that you are getting their cashout service for free and not giving back to the site in any way.

For example say you play at party but dont like how you get dinged when you cashout all the way to europe. Let's say you want to get $1000 out of party, you move it to neteller. You now move it to the "easycashout" casino. When you deposit there they are charged $40 by neteller. Now at the easycashout casino, they have to pay their staff for working on this, they also have to pay postage to send it to you, and they also have to pay any other bank fees for conversion of dollars to euros or whatever else. By the end the easycashout casino is losing a lot to you by doing this.

Are you really comfortable cheating someone this way?

[Hung]

I agree with what you say rusty.
But why don't they make it easier for Europeans to cash out? I don't mind to pay the $25 to get my cheque by fedex. But I just hate the fees that my bank is charging me. It's not the sites fault. But it's like losing one big pot. One huge bad beat.
Pity that bank card company does not allow the sites to credit back on our credit card. Because that's just awsome. I get the best fees for my dollars. Last time when I deposit $500 at UB for the bonus I could get it back very easily. They just put it back on my credit card. I didn't lose one cent. I won a few cent because the dollar went up a little.

I don´t play at UB, but I think I´ve read here once that at UB you can cash out via credit card even a bigger amount that you deposited via credit card

UB does not credit your VISA or whatsoever. They only credit the amount you paid and not more... pity. It would be heaven for the online players.

[rusty JEDI]

Yes it does suck. But you could always play Ladbrokes or 24h.

The thing that scares me the most about the method some have proposed is that if the site catches on, there really isnt anything stopping them from keeping your money. Those agreements when you download a program that people click yes to are quite long and may include something about this, but im not sure.

rJ

[dr_mabuse]

hi,

it looks like neteller is best used for creating one big purse feeding all poker-site accounts for europeans. using it this way also assures that you may do large cash-outs once you focussed your money at one place.
are there any fees on the poker-site<->neteller transactions ?

thanks and bye
olaf a.k.a. dr_mauspuke

[HavanaBanana]

not for the players, but the sites pay 4% for deposits and 2 % for cashouts ( or the other way around)

[Hung]

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I hope I did a smart thing.
It's free, so what can go wrong, right?

[Hung]

Holy Sh**, they're fast. One minute after I signed up I got a phonecall asking if I opened an account.

[dux]

They called me too - here in the outback (well, not really)...it's weird to actually speak to a real person for a change.

[nicky g]

You didn't have to do the credit card nonsense etc?

[Hung]

I don't know yet. Because I haven't got my login and password yet. I'm still waiting. They were fast to call, but not so fast to give me my login and password...

[dink]

Hung old boy

if you are going to get the debit card (netteller one that is) just check the terms, they have a $7 a month charge for inactivity, so you gotta pay for not using their services. What a rip off,

I was gunna get one so I could withdraw money from my netteller a/c at atms in Australia, but when I saw this charge I said to myself 'no way man, what a rip off'

check it out

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[rusty JEDI]

Dink

Any idea what happens if everytime you withdrawl to neteller you just drain the account. They would have a tough time charging a $7 inactivity fee if your balance is zero.