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GetThere1Time
10-06-2005, 02:05 PM
BB is 35/15/1.7 after 70
UTG is 33/15/2 after 200

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.20 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.
BigFishSmallCardRoom
10-06-2005, 03:49 PM
Call the turn. Muck the river to a BB bet/UTG call.
meanjean
10-06-2005, 04:11 PM
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Call the turn. Muck the river to a BB bet/UTG call.

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why?
smartalecc5
10-06-2005, 04:13 PM
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Call the turn. Muck the river to a BB bet/UTG call.

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why?

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Don't you see why? HE said to do it so you must do it.

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10-06-2005, 04:16 PM
NH.

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How about 2 letter answers?
NLSoldier
10-06-2005, 04:20 PM
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Call the turn. Muck the river to a BB bet/UTG call.

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why?

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because theres a good chance you have between 2 and 8 outs.
10-06-2005, 04:47 PM
I suck at poker and only play 0.50/1.00 so I don't know what it means if I like the way you played it. It is not like you are on a steal attempt, and neither of your opponents is a maniac.



The play that really scares me is is BB's Turn bet, I am putting him on at least two pair if not a set (based on the action I am leaning more towards a set, but that is less likely from a card distribution perspective, so lets make it 50/50. - ignoring the straight potential for now).

Against a set you have 2 outs, and against two pair you have at best 12 outs (but if the villan has two pair, then 6 of those are very dirty, and would be discounted) so lets discount the 12 to 8...

.50 x 2 = 1
.50 x 8 = 4

Therefore you have 5 outs, only considering the villan to have 2 pair or a set, if you want to put him on T8 for the straight you are also drawing dead, thus you may want to discount the 5 outs to 3.5 or 4. Take into account the chances that a 'pair the board card hits' and you are up against a FH (provided the villan is on 2 pair or a set alread) and you can further reduce your outs to 3 or 3.5.

At this point you are drawing very thin, but you may want to call with implied odds (only if you disagree with my outs calculation and instead think that you have 4 or 5 outs) on the turn, however, the above may represent a best case scenario (it could also be complete gibberish).

I am folding this on the turn.

Margon
10-06-2005, 04:48 PM
Call the turn for reasons NLSoldier stated. Don't let UTG's river call scare you if you decide to showdown, he probably just has a 9.