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JrJordan
10-06-2005, 01:30 AM
Villain is fairly loose passive, lots of cold calling and the sorts. Saw him c/r one turn with a big hand, so he's not bluffing too often from my limited experience.


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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero...

Haven't seen a donk bet from him yet. There enough value to raise here? Possible a K or lower 2 pair bets here (I don't think this player would c/r the turn with a low 2pair). If I raise, and he 3bets it's a pretty easy laydown for me. There's also probably no more than a 5% chance he'll fold to a raise after betting out.

RAAAAIIIISSSEEE? or call?
wackjob
10-06-2005, 01:34 AM
Call and curse.
Digs
10-06-2005, 01:38 AM
With your read I raise. My standard is call here fwiw though.
10-06-2005, 01:56 AM
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Possible a K or lower 2 pair bets here (I don't think this player would c/r the turn with a low 2pair).

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The only lower 2 pair on the turn is Q9. All others make a full house on the river.

Just call. Usually, Loose/Passive = Trip 7s.
Surfbullet
10-06-2005, 02:22 AM
K9 also makes a lower 2p, both possible candidates. Also, this type of villain will often play a K this way (maybe even AK) wanting to make sure a bet goes in on the river...kind of an instintive WA/WB line that is being misapplied.

I raise.

In the esteemed words of jason_t (and b_dids thereafter) (to paraphrase):

gggggggrrrrrrrrraa 2+2 AGGROmElike hand NoCALL...RAAAiiiisEAAaaaaAAwwwnRRGH!!!!

Honestly given your stipulations - easy fold to 3bet, he wont fold worse hands - this is a pretty easy raise IMO.

Surf
Kyle
10-06-2005, 02:26 AM
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Honestly given your stipulations - easy fold to 3bet, he wont fold worse hands - this is a pretty easy raise IMO.

Surf

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joker122
10-06-2005, 02:33 AM
and you like never get 3bet anyway.
10-06-2005, 03:13 AM
I missed the K9 somehow. Even so, we hear from a lower 2 pr earlier and usually a king as well. Don't you think a LPP would have donked the flop or the turn with either of those holdings? Not saying always, just playing devil's advocate.

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I missed the K9 somehow.

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