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alul

10-06-2005, 01:15 AM

Villain is 34/8/1.2.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks,

What the plan here, check behind, bet/call, bet/fold?

DrewOnTilt

10-06-2005, 01:53 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 34/8/1.2.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (10 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks,

What the plan here, check behind, bet/call, bet/fold?

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Bet/call

Donkbets rarely signifiy a legitimate hand. It usually means that the donkbettor has picked up some kind of weak draw. That is read dependent, though.

private joker

10-06-2005, 02:45 AM

I think it's close between bet/fold and bet/call. I doubt he'd check-raise with less than a T, but I don't think he'd bet out that turn with any T-hand. Then again, he's also not really afraid of the paired 9 on the board, which I don't like at all. I think I'm leaning towards bet/fold.

10-06-2005, 05:41 AM

Bet...

He will most likely call. That check on the river indicates that he's afraid of of a Straight/Flush not some fancy checkraise play after taking the lead on the turn... he will not checkraise you. He was protecting his hand throughout, and it's unlikely that he improved. I would put him on a Set A kicker, AA or at least AK(best case). Either way i think you should have folded the turn. I don't think there is any point to betting here, as you will not induce a set or AA to fold, but you might get AK to release his hand, which you could have beaten anyway.

poboys

10-06-2005, 09:59 AM

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Donkbets rarely signifiy a legitimate hand. It usually means that the donkbettor has picked up some kind of weak draw. That is read dependent, though.

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If that's your interpretation of the donk bet--what draw did the Villian pick up on the turn that didn't hit on the river?

alul

10-06-2005, 12:27 PM

Here is the outcome:

Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results below:
SB has Th Qc (straight, king high).
Hero has Ks Qs (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: SB wins 12 BB.

Anybody thinks I should have folded on the turn? What about flop raise, is it standard? Yes, no...maybe?

golfboy7

10-06-2005, 01:21 PM

thread hijack....warning....

listing the villians stats, first number is VPIP, 2nd is PFR, what's the 3rd? bb/100 or aggression factor?

Thanks for the clarification.

And also, which is standard format (VPIP / PFR / AF) or (VPIP / PFR / bb/100)?

Piiop

10-06-2005, 01:24 PM

Aggression factor.

VPIP/PFR/AF