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macdaddy991

10-05-2005, 09:19 PM

Making my way back to 6 max after a two month long revamp of my game. During this revamp, I focused on being more selective about my agression.

Evaluate

BB is aggressive when checked to or with TP or better.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets, MP calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: (7.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

milesdyson

10-05-2005, 09:22 PM

i would just call the flop against an aggressive BB here. let him lead into you again and you can get MP trapped on the turn/river. that said raising is definitely not a sin.

what do you think about this hand?

macdaddy991

10-05-2005, 09:27 PM

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what do you think about this hand?

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I raised the flop for a possible free card/ close flush equity. The turn check from the BB slightly confused me, and I saw no reason to bet the turn, especially if the BB wsa looking for a check raise. The river seemed like an easy value bet when checked to.

Roadstar

10-06-2005, 01:58 AM

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Making my way back to 6 max after a two month long revamp of my game. During this revamp, I focused on being more selective about my agression.

Evaluate

BB is aggressive when checked to or with TP or better.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets, MP calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: (7.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

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Preflop - standard raise

Flop - Raise is ok even if villain is aggressive, the free card is valuable at the turn if you can get it. Given villain's 3 bet (and MP coming along), I'd cap for value and potentially to convince villain for that free card.

Turn and River fine and standard.

Shillx

10-06-2005, 02:12 AM

Yeah I like it a lot. Nice hand.

Nightbrace

10-06-2005, 02:13 AM

standard play throughout, I couldn't have played it better myself.

MATT111

10-06-2005, 05:13 AM

Why don`t you cap the flop?
Otherwise it`s ok.

jrz1972

10-06-2005, 08:33 AM

Cap the flop. Good otherwise.

10-06-2005, 08:37 AM

why arent you capping here? just out of interest whats your thought process?

i think you have to cap for value with MP still in the hand, regardless of what BB has

@bsolute_luck

10-06-2005, 08:43 AM

i don't cap the flop because we only have 1 overcard to our flush draw and i'd rather have villain bet into me again if i hit my flush.

zephed

10-06-2005, 08:49 AM

I think capping last to act here is awesome. Not only is it a +EV raise (You usually have about 12 outs), you will get a free card often.

It also gives you a good image to take advantage of. They won't eff with you as often, and you may get some poor calldowns because they think you are full of it.

Roadstar

10-06-2005, 11:13 AM

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i don't cap the flop because we only have 1 overcard to our flush draw and i'd rather have villain bet into me again if i hit my flush.

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Disagree - on the flop your equity is probably around the chances of hitting your flush by the river or about 35%. With three ppl, capping is definitely +EV and could buy you a free card if you miss.

You're only going to hit your flush just under 20% of the time by the turn. So the benefit of being bet into so you can raise only comes 20% of the time.

The other 80% of the time, you'll miss and you're only 20% favorite to hit the flush by the river. The pot odds justify it but you'd probably check behind if you could.