View Full Version : I refuse to pay you a cent - QJo
StellarWind
10-05-2005, 04:36 PM
Party 5/10 6-max (6-handed)
Hero is Button with QJo and opens with a raise. BB makes it 3 bets and Hero calls. I don't know BB but I have 2000 hands of datamining that look very much like me on all streets.
The flop is A43 2-suited matching my jack and Villain checks. I proceed to take three free cards in a row as an off 3 and off 8 hit.
What is going on and what would you do?
Bet the flop and fold to a checkraise. You would be calling from the BB against a late position raiser with hands like 9To, 89s, etc.
Oops, just saw the 3-bet. Well bet somewhere, the flop or turn. You're probably behind a PP, but he might fold to the ace.
kelvin474
10-05-2005, 04:52 PM
This sucks imo.
The BB did not call, he 3-bet. You're looking at a ton of Aces and PP's that don't believe you needed an ace to openraise the button.
I think this guy is usually going to showdown with you with something like a PP that loved it preflop but isn't thrilled postflop. Also you can suck out on the ones less than Queens sometimes instead of folding to their possible checkraise.
joker122
10-05-2005, 05:39 PM
i usually don't bet anywhere here. after the preflop 3bet, the checking is never a check-intending to fold, but rather an intention to raise or call (in which case he just wants to showdown his pp).
sthief09
10-05-2005, 05:49 PM
I happily check it down as you did
This is fine. I can't find a place for a bet here. You have close to no folding equity.
Could go either way, he's either trying to induce a bet, or has nothing. I would bet and fold to check raise, or bet and check the rest of the way down if called.
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