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SoBeDude
05-21-2003, 09:09 AM
Paradise 5-10

I'm in the SB with A9o. UTG limps, folded around to me, I complete, BB checks.

Flop comes AKJ rainbow. Huh. I don't like the limp by UTG, what could he have? I've never played with him before. I check. BB checks, UTG (actually the button now) bets. I check-raise. BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn 9 (can't remember suit). Yea, I have aces up. I bet, UTG calls.

River rag. I bet, UTG calls.

Ok, what did UTG have?

Results to follow

-Scott

Ralle
05-21-2003, 09:29 AM
ATs or KQ maybe.

With a big pair he would've raised pre-flop. With a medium pair he would've folded on the flop or the turn, unless he had 99 in which case he would've raised on the turn.

With AK or AQ he would probably have raised pre-flop, and with AJ he would've been doing lots of raising on the flop and/or turn.

With KJs he would also have been doing some raising, and the same goes for QTs. Finally, with QJ or JTs, surely he would've dropped at some point.

WiredPair
05-21-2003, 09:36 AM
I'm with Ralle. I think he was playing A10 or K10.

SoBeDude
05-21-2003, 12:16 PM
UTG called all the way to the river with AJ for flopped aces up, and takes down the pot.

SUPRISE!

And this was a paradise 5-10 hand! Needless to say I was a bit shocked. First he didn't raise preflop, then he didn't bet the flop, or raise the flop, turn OR river!

How many mistakes can one guy make in one hand and still make money!!??

Perhaps I should have titled this "Misplayed at every street"?

-Scott

marbles
05-21-2003, 12:54 PM
After your flop checkraise, it was heads-up and he had position. Then he took two more bets from you. You could argue for a turn or river raise, but that could have easily folded a worse hand or been 3-bet by a better hand (namely QT).

On no street did he play as badly as you did preflop.

rigoletto
05-21-2003, 01:23 PM
AJ should have raised the river, no question about it! There are lots of hands besides QT that will bet like Scott.

Bob T.
05-21-2003, 01:29 PM
I think maybe UTG had AT suited.

Tyler Durden
05-21-2003, 04:16 PM
A8s? KQ? KTs?

hutz
05-21-2003, 04:24 PM
I had a tough time getting past the mere completion of the SB when there's only one limper in the hand, too. I would have raised to chase the BB and get it heads-up.

Schmed
05-21-2003, 04:28 PM
I probably would have bet out all the way and not went for the c/r on the flop. My thinking would be that if my hand is going to win I have the only A out there. If I have the only A then somone with a K may not bet.

Obviously the c/r worked out great because it gave you some more info on the flop. He didn't hit you again when it got HU. Now I haven't read the results yet but my guess is you won the pot. I'm thinkin the guy cold calling may be a passive player that has KJ, or K9 or something. I can't imagine him just calling you down like that with a just a pair.

marbles
05-21-2003, 04:48 PM
"AJ should have raised the river, no question about it!"

--From the safety of the 2+2 board, I'm pretty sure you're right. But since I wouldn't automatically do it in the heat of battle (call me weak-tight), I have trouble chastising the guy for just calling.

Nottom
05-21-2003, 05:31 PM
He had AA obviously, and figured you had QT

SoBeDude
05-21-2003, 05:52 PM
Hell, if he had raised the turn, I would have 3-bet him!

I would not have raise him if he had raised preflop however.

He missed a few bets here...

-S

Ralle
05-22-2003, 07:09 AM
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On no street did he play as badly as you did preflop.

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Ralle
05-22-2003, 07:13 AM
It was incredibly surprising that your aces up didn't take the pot. I'm guessing you felt pretty sure that you were winning when he called at the end.

rigoletto
05-22-2003, 08:20 AM
Where's the fun in 20/20 hindsigt if you can't mock people /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

34TheTruth34
05-22-2003, 10:36 PM
I had a tough time getting past the mere completion of the SB when there's only one limper in the hand, too. I would have raised to chase the BB and get it heads-up.

really? I probably wouldn't have even played A9 here. Is this wrong?