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10-05-2005, 02:03 AM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

The villan here is very loose passive....60.7/3.4/0.7

I am thinking that the river call was very bad, but could I have even folded this hand on the turn?

Thoughts and comments are appreciated!

Margon
DaSpade
10-05-2005, 02:33 AM
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I am thinking that the river call was very bad, but could I have even folded this hand on the turn?



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You have the nut flush draw and 2nd pair on the turn - do not even think about folding it on the turn.
deepsquat
10-05-2005, 02:34 AM
folding this hand on the turn is not an option. You have the nut flush draw, NEVER FOLD! A river fold is possible as its unlikely a passive will raise the turn w/out TP or better but i think u will be good here 1 in 7 so it think its a pretty standard call.
witeknite
10-05-2005, 11:47 AM
Do you really think Hero is good here 1 in 7 on the river? I can't think of any hands a passive is raising the turn with that we beat here. Maybe (big maybe) a worse K, but I doubt it. Any thoughts?

WiteKnite
wheelz
10-05-2005, 11:51 AM
yeah pretty easy river fold. a player like that isn't raising the turn with less than second pair. good up until then though.
obsidian
10-05-2005, 11:56 AM
This is a pretty easy river fold. Middle pair is just about never good here when a passive player raises you on the turn.
stigmata
10-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Easy turn call, Easy river fold.

You raised preflop, an ace came on the flop, and you got raised on the turn by a passive player. He will have a worse hand here almost 0% of the time, but you have odds to suck out.
10-05-2005, 12:50 PM
Take the free card on the turn. You'll never fold an ace, and your sidecard may or may not be enough. You have outs.
witeknite
10-05-2005, 12:53 PM
Free card?

WiteKnite
mmmmmbrother
10-05-2005, 12:54 PM
how can hero take a free card on the turn

you have to call the turn, and you have to fold the river

it really sucks you are oop
10-05-2005, 01:22 PM
Call the turn without thinking. Even if you didn't pair, the turn is an easy call.

Fold the river. You might have wanted to try bet/folding the river. I'm not sure of his chances of folding an ace to a bet.
purnell
10-05-2005, 01:30 PM
0.7 AF with vpip 60% is not as passive as you might think. You cannot fold the turn, you have way too many outs. In fact I might raise here. Given villain's stats, I call the river bet, expecting to win the showdown about 1/5 of the time.
10-05-2005, 01:34 PM
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how can hero take a free card on the turn

you have to call the turn, and you have to fold the river

it really sucks you are oop

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Sorry, I misread it. I saw "hero is CO and raises" and figured he had last action. Bet the turn, call a raise, and check-fold the river against a passive or tight player. Against a thinking TAG or tricky player, you need to call the river.